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Polygraph and CVSA Forums => Polygraph Policy => Topic started by: Tron on Jul 07, 2009, 10:59 PM

Title: Personal Information
Post by: Tron on Jul 07, 2009, 10:59 PM
         
"Be aware that polygraph operators also read the discussions on this message board. If you wish to remain anonymous, be careful not to post enough personal detail that you could be identified (for example, the exact date of your polygraph examination). For better anonymity, use an anonymous proxy such as Proxify.com or the Tor anonymous Internet communication system. If you find this message board interesting, please tell a friend!"

I would request that the administrator would change this to a more accurate warning.  It should be noted that this website will also post your personal information if you have a dissenting opinion.   The point of doing this is simply to embarrass you and unfortunately there are people here that applaud this type of abuse and cowardness. 

Make believe science is better than make believe integrity.
Title: Re: Personal Information
Post by: T.M. Cullen on Jul 07, 2009, 11:40 PM
I thought you said you had made your "last post"?    :(
Title: Re: Personal Information
Post by: Tron on Jul 08, 2009, 01:24 AM
Quote from: PhilGainey on Jul 07, 2009, 11:40 PMI thought you said you had made your "last post"?    :(


Well I guess it wouldn't be the first time someone on this site has lied.   
Title: Re: Personal Information
Post by: Tron on Jul 08, 2009, 01:27 AM
It's also a legitimate claim. 

I hope the countermeasures work out for you guys, take care.
Title: Re: Personal Information
Post by: George W. Maschke on Jul 08, 2009, 02:21 AM
Quote from: 07213C3D530 on Jul 07, 2009, 10:59 PM         
"Be aware that polygraph operators also read the discussions on this message board. If you wish to remain anonymous, be careful not to post enough personal detail that you could be identified (for example, the exact date of your polygraph examination). For better anonymity, use an anonymous proxy such as Proxify.com or the Tor anonymous Internet communication system. If you find this message board interesting, please tell a friend!"

I would request that the administrator would change this to a more accurate warning.  It should be noted that this website will also post your personal information if you have a dissenting opinion.   The point of doing this is simply to embarrass you and unfortunately there are people here that applaud this type of abuse and cowardness. 

Make believe science is better than make believe integrity.

It's simply not the case that AntiPolygraph.org routinely discloses personal information regarding those who disagree with us. All points of view are welcome. Anonymity is welcome. But trolling is not. Those who choose to troll these forums risk being named and shamed.

It's clear that your purpose here is not to engage in any meaningful discussion of polygraph matters, but to post flamebait and denigrate others. You were warned (https://antipolygraph.org/forum/index.php?topic=4352.msg33518#msg33518) about this before. Now you have been banned.
Title: Re: Personal Information
Post by: At work on Jul 09, 2009, 11:53 PM
Is this true?  Do you guys really do this?  WTF, so if someone doesn't like you or agree with you, then you post their stuff on the forum,

that is not right

This is sad if true. 

I just read that the guys that have been banned have been named, this is classless.

No wonder there will never be a change in the industry, people like George who allow this are obviously just trying to blame others for their failing to pass their poly's
Title: Re: Personal Information
Post by: Administrator on Jul 10, 2009, 01:50 AM
AntiPolygraph.org has reason to conclude that posts by "At work" and Tron share a common authorship. "At work has likewise been banned.
Title: Re: Personal Information
Post by: Sergeant1107 on Jul 10, 2009, 12:42 PM
This person is really a proponent of troll's rights.

I wonder if "Tron" would have an issue if PolygraphPlace.com did the same thing to people who continued to troll and post flame-bait after repeated bannings?
Title: Re: Personal Information
Post by: pailryder on Jul 10, 2009, 05:49 PM
To be fair, Sargeant, I'm not aware of anyone polygraphplace has outed.
Title: Re: Personal Information
Post by: Sergeant1107 on Jul 10, 2009, 06:52 PM
Quote from: pailryder on Jul 10, 2009, 05:49 PMTo be fair, Sargeant, I'm not aware of anyone polygraphplace has outed.
Neither am I.  My apologies if my post came across as implying any such thing.

I was wondering if the same people who have such a problem with the naming of trolls who continue to come back and post flame-bait after repeated bannings would have the same problem if the same thing happened on a board to which they belonged.
Title: Re: Personal Information
Post by: Drz on Jul 11, 2009, 06:13 PM
From what I have seen polygraphplace.com is run in a more professional manner than this site.  I don't see why people here are so vindictive to allow the release of private names and work places.

Seems very unprofessional.  The activities of this site defeats the purpose intended and that is too bad.

Very unprofessional.
Title: Re: Personal Information
Post by: Drz on Jul 11, 2009, 06:34 PM
Quote from: George_Maschke on Jul 08, 2009, 02:21 AM
Quote from: 07213C3D530 on Jul 07, 2009, 10:59 PM
"Be aware that polygraph operators also read the discussions on this message board. If you wish to remain anonymous, be careful not to post enough personal detail that you could be identified (for example, the exact date of your polygraph examination). For better anonymity, use an anonymous proxy such as Proxify.com or the Tor anonymous Internet communication system. If you find this message board interesting, please tell a friend!"

I would request that the administrator would change this to a more accurate warning.  It should be noted that this website will also post your personal information if you have a dissenting opinion.   The point of doing this is simply to embarrass you and unfortunately there are people here that applaud this type of abuse and cowardness. 

Make believe science is better than make believe integrity.

It's simply not the case that AntiPolygraph.org routinely discloses personal information regarding those who disagree with us. All points of view are welcome. Anonymity is welcome. But trolling is not. Those who choose to troll these forums risk being named and shamed.

It's clear that your purpose here is not to engage in any meaningful discussion of polygraph matters, but to post flamebait and denigrate others. You were warned (https://antipolygraph.org/forum/index.php?topic=4352.msg33518#msg33518) about this before. Now you have been banned.


I think the point here is though that it's done at all, and that is not right.  You should never do that, it's about trust and you yourself have posted that warning on the top of the screen to use proxify to hamper this effort but to think that you would allow this behavior is very sad.

I thought the purpose of this site was to change the system but instead this site gives the system reason not to change.  It seems to me to be very deceptive on your part to allow this.  Seems hypocritical.

I was hoping the polygraph organizations would change but if this is the competition and voice of reason then they never will.

It's behavior like this that makes the fight harder for those of us who actually have been victimized by polygraphs because now we know it's going to take someone else to speak up for us to be taken seriously.

Antipolygraph.org should have the stance of NEVER posting any information about it's users. 
Title: Re: Personal Information
Post by: George W. Maschke on Jul 11, 2009, 06:50 PM
Drz,

I understand, but reject, your critique of regarding AntiPolygraph.org's policy of selectively naming and shaming trolls. If that causes you to choose not to post here, so be it. You may wish to start an alternative polygraph discussion forum with moderation policies more to your liking.
Title: Re: Personal Information
Post by: Fair Chance on Jul 11, 2009, 11:50 PM
Readers,

It has been many years that I have monitored this website.  This is the most lenient, open, and accommodating site to proponents of polygraph usage.

No one forces anyone to post here.  Opinions are tolerated and censorship is minimal.  I dare any pro-polygraph site to be so tolerate of opposing views without censorship or deletions.

I am always amazed that when the word "polygraph" is typed in a Google search engine, this site comes up as the number one hit except for those who pay to advertise.

Look at all the Federal hiring questions that are posted on this site.  Applicants are desperately trying to get information not available anywhere else on the net.  This site is not designed to answer applicant questions but I feel that more general information is available here than on any government site concerning the process.  This is a sad comment on the information provided to potential applicants for government jobs.

Regards.