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Title: Verify
Post by: glovertp on Oct 13, 2006, 02:25 PM
I've tried to verify some of the quotes found on this site because they are very powerful if true.  But, I can't find the source in many cases in order to independently verify them before quoting them myself.  In general, it would be nice if the site could have a reference page that points to where all the quotes come from and enough information to allow visitors to find those sources through independent means.  There are three in particular that I would like to verify for use ASAP.  If you could help me, I would greatly appreciate it.  Here they are:

"...the use of this highly flawed instrument should be radically curtailed."
            - former CIA Director R. James Woolsey


"[The CIA's] reliance on the polygraph is truly insane."
            - former CIA Director John M. Deutch


"I'm sorry I ever had any part in its development."
            - John Larson, invented the polygraph lie detector in 1921
Title: Re: Verify
Post by: George W. Maschke on Oct 13, 2006, 02:42 PM
Quote from: glovertp on Oct 13, 2006, 02:25 PM
"...the use of this highly flawed instrument should be radically curtailed."
           - former CIA Director R. James Woolsey

See:

https://antipolygraph.org/forum/index.php?topic=2414.msg17034#msg17034


Quote"[The CIA's] reliance on the polygraph is truly insane."
           - former CIA Director John M. Deutch

See Weiner, Tim. "Spies Wanted," New York Times, 24 January 1999.

Quote"I'm sorry I ever had any part in its development."
           - John Larson, invented the polygraph lie detector in 1921

See citation at p. 123 of The Lie Behind the Lie Detector:

http://antipolygraph.org/lie-behind-the-lie-detector.pdf
Title: Re: Verify
Post by: glovertp on Oct 13, 2006, 07:18 PM
Thanks very much!  This is very helpful.  I've been putting together a small 'case' against lie detection for personal reasons and in order to increase it's credibility, I'm keeping my own opinions to a minimum - relying primarily on documented (and objective for the most part - at the very least credible) sources which I comment on and string together in a cohesive argument.  It's about 5 to 10 pages depending on how you separate each piece.  I'll share it with you if you would like.
Title: Re: Verify
Post by: George W. Maschke on Oct 14, 2006, 02:52 AM
I'd be happy to review your compilation. You're welcome to post it here, if you like, so that all may read it.