Can anyone help me I have to take a Voice Stress Test and am very nervous about it. I am naturally a very stressed person I am on anxiety pills for nervousness They tell me that it wont effect my test. How true is this??
Also does anyone have any tips on helping me reduce my stress so that I could pass it??
Anything would be great. I dont want to be marked a liar. ???
Voice stress analysis is a fraud. These "tests" detect neither stress nor deception. Like the polygraph, voice stress analyzers are little more than an interrogator's prop.
I'm not aware of anything you can do to directly influence the outcome of a voice stress analysis "test." However, the behavioral countermeasures suggested for polygraph examinations in Chapter 4 of The Lie Behind the Lie Detector (http://antipolygraph.org/lie-behind-the-lie-detector.pdf) may be helpful.
Why do you have to submit to this procedure? If there is any way to avoid it, you should.
The reason I have to take the test is, I started working at a convience store and on my first day there a girl came up 200.00 short on her drops that she left out. I had nothing to do with this but I have already been talked to by the police and they said the next step is a Voice Stress Analysis which scares me, because just talking to the police the other day made me so nervous that if i would have been taking a test I would have failed it.
I do not want this on me. For once I didnt do something and could get blamed for it that isnt fair
The police cannot legally compel you to submit to their bogus "test." It's only "the next step" if you allow it to be, and you would be wise to refuse. Moreover, under the Employee Polygraph Protection Act (http://www.fas.org/sgp/othergov/polygraph/eppa.html), your employer may not retaliate against you in any way for refusing to submit to any kind of lie detector test.
Our Agency takes the position that they can require us to submit to a polygraph. And of course, the PPA doesn't apply to law enforcement agencies.
Here's how it's done. In an internal investigation, you are read and acknowledge your rights and responsibilites under Garrity. Something like this "we are conducting an internal investigation to determine your fitness to continue in your position. you are required to comply with any and all requests made of you by competent authority to include, but not be limited to, examination polygraph yada yada yada. This is not a criminal investigation and any information gathered cannot be used against you in a subsequent criminal proceeding" If you refuse to comply with an order to take a polygraph, you are fired for refusing an order. Has been consistently upheld at least at the Superior Court level. Not sure of Fed and/or State Appellate Courts
Of note is the fact that you are NOT Mirandized. You are "Garrityied"
Quote from: George W. Maschke on Jan 20, 2006, 10:40 AMThe police cannot legally compel you to submit to their bogus "test." It's only "the next step" if you allow it to be, and you would be wise to refuse. Moreover, under the Employee Polygraph Protection Act (http://www.fas.org/sgp/othergov/polygraph/eppa.html), your employer may not retaliate against you in any way for refusing to submit to any kind of lie detector test.
George,
They sure can't. But they do, and routinely retaliate. They just call it something else
Regards
Just for a little more information I do not work at that job anymore I only worked there for 2 weeks all of this happend on my first day there and since I happend to have worked that day of course I had to get questioned by the police. I even offered since it happend on my shift I said i would take care of it. But they said no well at least the assistant manager did. I have been told by several people to refuse but I am afraid that if i refuse they will assume I am guilty, but what if I fail then I am going to be assumed guilty.
Dippityshurff,
Unfortunately, the Employee Polygraph Employment Act of 1988 excludes federal, state, and local government employees from its protections. AntiPolygraph.org supports passage of a Comprehensive Employee Polygraph Protection Act (http://antipolygraph.org/ceppa.shtml) that would close this loophole.
angel52392003,
Do I understand you correctly that you offered to cover the missing $200 for your former employer? If so, that was a mistake, as such an offer would raise the suspicions of any investigator. You don't need to worry about "looking guilty." You already do.
Those who have told you to refuse the CVSA have given you good advice. Passing this bogus "test" won't clear you as a suspect, but "failing" will only deepen suspicions and lead to a potentially harsh interrogation without a lawyer present.
Angel
Listen to George. DON'T TAKE IT. Failing the test will do you more harm than telling them where to put their idiot device. If they had evidence against you, they wouldn't be asking you to take the test. Tell them to charge you with a crime or leave you alone. If they don't, then get a lawyer and sue them. Retract your offer to take care of the loss and let them know that you will fight them at what ever level they wish to take.
So I should tell the police officer that I refuse to take the test even after I done said I would and when they ask me why what should I say is my reason.. The only reason I offered to pay it is because I have worked at a convience store in the past and everywhere i have worked they said if money comes up missing then it is your responsibility if it is on your shift. But my boss said when it come up missing he had on tape the other girl messing with the safedrops and then going over and getting her purse and then messing with the drops again. He said I had nothing to worry about.. So now why are they wanting me to take it.. I am so nervous. All of everyones help is wonderful.
I also wonder if the laws are different in Arkansas than in other states regarding refusing to take a Voice stress analysis
Angel,
You can explain to the police that you've learned that CVSA "testing" is completely without scientific basis, and that you are not about to have your honesty and integrity judged on the basis of such pseudoscientific nonsense. Feel free to refer them to AntiPolygraph.org, and to me personally.
Angel,
Also note that in none of the 50 United States can a person be forced to submit to any kind of lie detector "test" in a criminal investigation, and in none of them is a person's refusal to submit to such nonsense admissible as evidence in a court of law.
OK i will tell them that.. THey are suppose to call me sometime with a day and time to take the test and I was gonna have to miss school and everything to take it. When they call i will tell them exactly what has been referred to me and I will give them this website and your name.
If you can think of anymore informatioon that would be helpful to me, PLEASE let me know.. Thank you so much..
Angel
angel
Keep notes of your conversations (direct quotes,etc.) with the police and company personel. Date and time. Detailed notes are very important if one has to go to court.
I didn't know Arkansas employed the CVSA. I thought they were strictly polygraph. Doesn't supprise though. A lot of people there believe in magic.
You can email me from this website any time. I might be able to help you find a pro bono lawyer if needed. Arkansas is my home state. Haven't lived there since college but visit often.
Let us know the outcome.
just wanted to let everyone know that they still havent called me yet and they acted like they were in such a big hurry.
Angel,
I can't resist saying this because it fits. Looks like they lost another one to AntiPolygraph.org !! (The Ditech commercial just fit so well) ... good going on standing up to them and there junk device.
Regards ...
Look man, its exactly right when they told you that if they had anyting on you, they wouldn't be asking you to take the cvsa. And again right, that if you passed, they would still be on you because they know it doesn't prove anything. Tell them it is beneath you. Tell them to either charge you or get the hell out of your face. Then don't even think about it again.
just to let everyone know it has been over a week and they still havent got in touch with me about the stupid test.
Angel,
Odds are you won't even hear from them. Especially since you know their little CVSA is a scam. Again good going on finding this site. Its great to know it helped. Make sure you spread the word.
Regards .....
thank you i am really glad that i found this site to
well the detective finally called today but i couldnt talk because i had just got home from the dentist and had a tooth pulled she said she is gonna call back later.
angel
I am supprised you got the call after so much time has passed. Just shows that they have no evidence against you and are trying to trap you. Just do as you have been instructed and you'll be ok. Your integrity is worth more than a 50/50 guess. As I have told you, if they want to push the case, they will have to appoint you an attorney.
well guess what I got home from school today and the detective had called me again, wanting me to take that test she just left a message on my machine and when i went to call her back she had done left for the day.
This is all just making me a nervous wreck, I know i dont want to take this test but I think I am to big of a chicken to tell a cop NO. Any suggestions on how to go about doing that.
Quote from: angel52392003 on Feb 08, 2006, 06:39 PMwell guess what I got home from school today and the detective had called me again, wanting me to take that test she just left a message on my machine and when i went to call her back she had done left for the day.
This is all just making me a nervous wreck, I know i dont want to take this test but I think I am to big of a chicken to tell a cop NO. Any suggestions on how to go about doing that.
angel,
Please see my earlier reply to you (#10 in this message thread).
ok i will do that. I am sorry that it scares me so bad that I freak out.
Hey just wanted to update everyone. Since I took the advice of all the wonderful people on here I have not heard back fro the detective or anyone else from the PD. I am so grateful that I found this site and everyone has help me to be a more educated person. LOTS OF THANKS TO YOU ALL :) ;) :D ;D
Just wanted to let everyone know the latest. Almost 5 months later the cop has came to my house but I was not home and left her business card. So i emailed her and she is still hounding me wanting to know if i will take it.. I just told her in my last email that I was not gonna take it and asked her what will happen if I refuse to take it.
Any ideas what they can do if i refuse it.
Angel,
There is not a dam thing they can do ... Stand your ground. It is your right to refuse the procedure. And continue to do so !! And do quote this website.
Regards ....