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Polygraph and CVSA Forums => Polygraph Procedure => Topic started by: George W. Maschke on Jan 04, 2006, 06:53 PM

Title: Re: He said i passed? Can he lie
Post by: George W. Maschke on Jan 04, 2006, 06:53 PM
Did your polygrapher actually accuse you of using countermeasures, or did you simply infer that he thought you used them because of his comment, "Wow, you beat the polygraph?"
Title: Re: He said i passed? Can he lie
Post by: Corrupted on Jan 04, 2006, 06:59 PM
Quote from: George W. Maschke on Jan 04, 2006, 06:53 PMDid your polygrapher actually accuse you of using countermeasures, or did you simply infer that he thought you used them because of his comment, "Wow, you beat the polygraph?"


well see this is my second attempt taking the polygraph test he accused me at the beginning of the test saying this is what the other examiner said.

at the end he made that comment and it was kinda out of place but he did say i passed but after that i told him i dont trust the mechines a pathological lier can pass and he asked me if i was one i said no

i was being truthful
Title: Re: He said i passed? Can he lie
Post by: George W. Maschke on Jan 04, 2006, 07:24 PM
If a subject fails the polygraph, or if countermeasures are suspected, standard polygraph procedure is to confront the examinee with that. Since that didn't happen, it seems most likely that you actually did pass.

Your polygrapher's comment about your having "beaten" the polygraph could have been a sort of counter-countermeasure, the purpose being to gauge your reaction. Had you not at that point denied countermeasure use, it might have been taken as a sort of admission.
Title: Re: He said i passed? Can he lie
Post by: Corrupted on Jan 04, 2006, 07:29 PM
Quote from: George W. Maschke on Jan 04, 2006, 07:24 PMIf a subject fails the polygraph, or if countermeasures are suspected, standard polygraph procedure is to confront the examinee with that. Since that didn't happen, it seems most likely that you actually did pass.

Your polygrapher's comment about your having "beaten" the polygraph could have been a sort of counter-countermeasure, the purpose being to gauge your reaction. Had you not at that point denied countermeasure use, it might have been taken as a sort of admission.


wow thanks for your help also got 1 last question is he allowed to say i passed off record as a counter measure and fail me?
Title: Re: He said i passed? Can he lie
Post by: George W. Maschke on Jan 04, 2006, 07:38 PM
Quote from: Corrupted on Jan 04, 2006, 07:29 PMwow thanks for your help also got 1 last question is he allowed to say i passed off record as a counter measure and fail me?

I don't know. Although it is not common practice, I am not aware of any general prohibition that would prevent a polygrapher from telling a subject "off the record" that he/she passed but then failing him/her. The answer to your question may depend on your state's laws as well as any relevant departmental, municipal, county, or state administrative regulations.