Has anyone ever had any experience w/ this group of FBI employees?
Is anyone in the positio currently or know anything about the position, ex: is it interesting, exciting, challenging, why do people like it or dislike it, etc.
Thanks
Dear kodak,
These positions do not require a four year degree. Many applicants take these positions to set themselves up for applications to state and local departments as they try to continue night school (mostly criminal justice or law enforcement curriculums). The three letter word looks good on a resume.
Applicants for these positions do not fare any better than general applicants for special agent positions after getting their degrees.
They work tough constantly rotating shifts but get exposure which is valued by other departments.
Pretty tough for married individuals because of the difficulty in predicting schedules.
You will still need to go through the poly process which is a 50-50 crapshoot. You can hit the lottery ticket or be banned for life from most law enforcement postitions if you fail.
It just depends what is your final destination or goal.
Regards.
Fair Chance,
Besides the rotating schedule, do you know of any other positives or negatives about the job.
Dear kodak,
Positives, paycheck and benefits everyweek including four weeks vacation after three years, access to information that few people are aware off, some cases are very interesting.
Negatives, you cannot tell anyone about anything interesting about your job because it is all top secret, you cannot impress your friends about what you do because it will be frowned upon by the security people of the FBI. The FBI wants you to keep an exceptionally low profile almost to the point that no one is aware of the fact that you work for the FBI period. The FBI is experiencing a low point of prestige after the 911 commission findings and the Director, to his credit, is fighting with all of his might to keep as much work under the FBI as possible.
You can contact me with specific question via private messages about anything more because I do not want to bore people with the details.
Regards.
Fair Chance,
I sent you a pm
Quote from: Fair Chance on Apr 30, 2004, 09:30 PMDear kodak,
Positives, paycheck and benefits everyweek including four weeks vacation after three years, access to information that few people are aware off, some cases are very interesting.
Negatives, you cannot tell anyone about anything interesting about your job because it is all top secret, you cannot impress your friends about what you do because it will be frowned upon by the security people of the FBI. The FBI wants you to keep an exceptionally low profile almost to the point that no one is aware of the fact that you work for the FBI period. The FBI is experiencing a low point of prestige after the 911 commission findings and the Director, to his credit, is fighting with all of his might to keep as much work under the FBI as possible.
You can contact me with specific question via private messages about anything more because I do not want to bore people with the details.
Regards.
Fair Chance,
From what I gather you have not been involved w/ folks in the Inv. Specialist postion right?
If so, I was looking mor for information on what a day in the life of an IS is like or what reasons people like the job?
Thanks
Kodak,
I have some knowledge of what you could expect from this position, based on my research and discussions with individuals currently employed in the position. Basically, investigative specialists have a unique position within the Bureau working street level surveillance. This could entail following individuals on foot, in vehicles, or parking outside their home. They do not have any arrest authority. The main focus of investigative specialists is to conduct surveillance operations to thwart terrorism and "keep an eye" on suspected terrorist or those enabling terrorist activity. I do not believe this position is for everyone, if you are the type of person that always has to be doing something then this position is probably not for you. In some instances you could spend anywhere from 8, 10, or even 12 hours sitting in a car!!! On the other hand, if a law enforcement position is your true desire and calling then you should go for it. I venture to say that people in this position enjoy there job, otherwise they would not be doing it. Quite a few individuals have actually used this position as a stepping stone to an agent position, but that is no guarantee. It is my understanding that the Bureau is looking to hire a substantial number of people for this position in the coming year, so be on the look out for vacancy announcements. I hope this helps, please keep posting if you have any additional questions.
kodak,
Many SSG personnel [not all] are usually hired into what is known within the bureau as Professional Support Positions, generally GS-11 positions. SSG personnel often work directly with Special Agents. They are not issued weapons, nor do they carry a badge. They are however, given bureau cars, credit cards, bureau credentials that look nearly identical to Special Agents. Additionally, they hold TS security clearances. Support personnel attend squad meetings, and are a big part of case workload to include big arrests. They are also allowed overtime if authorized.
There are various specialties within SSG units and its assigned personnel. For the most part, SSG support personnel are treated no different than SA's, and in some cases, respected more than some agents within SO and SSG units.
A typical day in the life of an SSG support employee is a very interesting and at times, exciting career. It all depends on what you find exciting. If you are assigned to an SSG unit, you will be treated the same as if you were a special agent. Make no mistake about it, SA's trust, depend on, and rely heavily on their support personnel.
SSG personnel do a lot of surveillance support, photography, and generally works with special types of surveillance and counter intelligence, surveillance equipment, electronics, cameras, computer specialists, various types of analyst, video, audio, etc., etc., and the list goes on.
Do not be fooled into thinking an SSG position is not a desirable job, they are good positions that can lead to other things within the bureau. Look at it as getting a foot in the door, and remember, SSG support positions can lead to higher paying GS support positions out-side of an SSG/SO unit.
Good luck with your future FBI endeavors. .
Knowledge is power, educate yourself on how polygraph exams are administered.
Triple x
Quote from: Rugger on May 05, 2004, 09:57 PMKodak,
I have some knowledge of what you could expect from this position, based on my research and discussions with individuals currently employed in the position. Basically, investigative specialists have a unique position within the Bureau working street level surveillance. This could entail following individuals on foot, in vehicles, or parking outside their home. They do not have any arrest authority. The main focus of investigative specialists is to conduct surveillance operations to thwart terrorism and "keep an eye" on suspected terrorist or those enabling terrorist activity. I do not believe this position is for everyone, if you are the type of person that always has to be doing something then this position is probably not for you. In some instances you could spend anywhere from 8, 10, or even 12 hours sitting in a car!!! On the other hand, if a law enforcement position is your true desire and calling then you should go for it. I venture to say that people in this position enjoy there job, otherwise they would not be doing it. Quite a few individuals have actually used this position as a stepping stone to an agent position, but that is no guarantee. It is my understanding that the Bureau is looking to hire a substantial number of people for this position in the coming year, so be on the look out for vacancy announcements. I hope this helps, please keep posting if you have any additional questions.
From your conversations you have had w/ folks currently on the job, do you (or anyone that has replied) know any dislike about the job they might have or have had?
Thanks
There are not any specific dislikes that I have heard of, they are different from person to person. If there was one, however, probably the biggest would be the hours. From my understanding they are pretty irregular, you could be required to work at any time, at any hour. I venture to say that this would make it hard for someone with a family. The FBI also requires a two year committment for this position, this in itself leads me to believe that they may have trouble keeping people in this position and have high turnover. I suggest that you go this website www.911jobsforum.com, there is an array of information on the investigative specialist position. You can actually conduct a search and strand upon strand of posts will pop up. Good Luck!!!
Quote from: triple x on May 05, 2004, 11:06 PMkodak,
Many SSG personnel [not all] are usually hired into what is known within the bureau as Professional Support Positions, generally GS-11 positions. SSG personnel often work directly with Special Agents. They are not issued weapons, nor do they carry a badge. They are however, given bureau cars, credit cards, bureau credentials that look nearly identical to Special Agents. Additionally, they hold TS security clearances. Support personnel attend squad meetings, and are a big part of case workload to include big arrests. They are also allowed overtime if authorized.
There are various specialties within SSG units and its assigned personnel. For the most part, SSG support personnel are treated no different than SA's, and in some cases, respected more than some agents within SO and SSG units.
A typical day in the life of an SSG support employee is a very interesting and at times, exciting career. It all depends on what you find exciting. If you are assigned to an SSG unit, you will be treated the same as if you were a special agent. Make no mistake about it, SA's trust, depend on, and rely heavily on their support personnel.
SSG personnel do a lot of surveillance support, photography, and generally works with special types of surveillance and counter intelligence, surveillance equipment, electronics, cameras, computer specialists, various types of analyst, video, audio, etc., etc., and the list goes on.
Do not be fooled into thinking an SSG position is not a desirable job, they are good positions that can lead to other things within the bureau. Look at it as getting a foot in the door, and remember, SSG support positions can lead to higher paying GS support positions out-side of an SSG/SO unit.
Good luck with your future FBI endeavors. .
Knowledge is power, educate yourself on how polygraph exams are administered.
Triple x
Triple x,
Have you had any experience as an investigative specialist or know folks in the position?
Is do you know of any of the negatives about the job?
Thanks
Dear Kodak,
Triple X and Rugger are accurate and as about detailed as you are going to get on a non-secure bulletin board. Read in between the lines.
Anyone who admits to "being in the know" of "day to day real life experience" of what you want to know is not going to post for good reason.
You are an anonymous poster on a website trying to get information on how investigative specialist work on a day to day basis. If you really understood what you are applying for you would not ask such questions and expect a legitimate answer.
Please be patient and understand that you are not going to get details from any legitimate source other than the agency that you are applying for concerning specific day to day likes and dislike about the position.
Regards.
Kodak,
I am not an investigative specialist; however, I do know and work with SSG support personnel on a regular basis. I can't help but notice, you continue to press for negativity with respect to SSG support positions....
If one look's close enough, negative aspects can be found within any career field or position. This would be inclusive of SSG support positions as well as special agent positions. Having said that, if I had to single out and identify only one negative aspect regarding SSG support positions, I would say that SSG employees should be paid more money, at least a GS-12 pay scale.
SSG personnel usually will "top-out" at a GS-11, step-10. Approximately 55 - 60k per year, plus locality pay depending on your geographic location.
The good points out weigh the bad with respect to SSG positions. As I said previously, working within an SSG squad/unit is not a bad assignment.
Good luck.
Triple x
Thanks for the reply. I know that in this particular position the positves can't be divulged b/c of the covert actions of the job. I am looking more for the daily nuiances of the job, why folks that have been doing this for a while either like or dislike the job.
Thanks for any additional feedback you can provide.
Quote from: Fair Chance on Apr 30, 2004, 09:30 PMDear kodak,
Positives, paycheck and benefits everyweek including four weeks vacation after three years, access to information that few people are aware off, some cases are very interesting.
Negatives, you cannot tell anyone about anything interesting about your job because it is all top secret, you cannot impress your friends about what you do because it will be frowned upon by the security people of the FBI. The FBI wants you to keep an exceptionally low profile almost to the point that no one is aware of the fact that you work for the FBI period. The FBI is experiencing a low point of prestige after the 911 commission findings and the Director, to his credit, is fighting with all of his might to keep as much work under the FBI as possible.
You can contact me with specific question via private messages about anything more because I do not want to bore people with the details.
Regards.
I have read in several places about the SSG and the job sounds boring as hell. Sitting and rotting in a car doing surveillance should be a dandy.
Bring toothpicks to hold your eyelids open.
Go another route brother or you will slit your wrists.
Quote from: Fair Chance on Apr 30, 2004, 09:30 PMDear kodak,
Positives, paycheck and benefits everyweek including four weeks vacation after three years, access to information that few people are aware off, some cases are very interesting.
Negatives, you cannot tell anyone about anything interesting about your job because it is all top secret, you cannot impress your friends about what you do because it will be frowned upon by the security people of the FBI. The FBI wants you to keep an exceptionally low profile almost to the point that no one is aware of the fact that you work for the FBI period. The FBI is experiencing a low point of prestige after the 911 commission findings and the Director, to his credit, is fighting with all of his might to keep as much work under the FBI as possible.
You can contact me with specific question via private messages about anything more because I do not want to bore people with the details.
Regards.
I have read in several places about the SSG and the job sounds boring as hell. Sitting and rotting in a car doing surveillance should be a dandy.
Bring toothpicks to hold your eyelids open.
Go another route brother or you will slit your wrists.
kodak,
I know I am probably late getting in on this conversation, but if you have anymore questions on the position of Investigative Specialist - SSG, you may contact me..
I am a new SSG recruit and know all about the job.. I also worked with them this summer while doing an internship at the FBI.. This is an awesome job, and every "G" loves their job..
I can give you any information, (that won't violate my TS clearance) about the job that you want.
Hope this helps..
SSG Recruit,
I sent you an email, hope that was ok. But just in case you can read below.
I am in the middle of the SA and IS hiring process.
If possible could you provide any information about the IS job, good and bad alike. I have to decide hear pretty soon which avenue to take. I want to get as good as possible view of the IS position, since there is not much out there.
In addition if you could maybe give a comparison sort of speaks of the IS to SA. I know they are two completly different jobs but any insight in that route would also be very helpful.
Also, relocation how does that work for the IS?
Money and retirement issues really don't matter regarding choosing one over the other.
Thanks for any input,
SSG Recruit,
I sent you an email, hope that was ok as well.
I am in the middle of the SA and IS hiring process.
If possible could you provide any information about the IS job, good and bad alike. I have to decide hear pretty soon which avenue to take. I want to get as good as possible view of the IS position, since there is not much out there.
In addition if you could maybe give a comparison sort of speaks of the IS to SA. I know they are two completly different jobs but any insight in that route would also be very helpful.
Also, relocation how does that work for the IS?
Money and retirement issues really don't matter regarding choosing one over the other.
Thanks for any input,
Hi SSG Recruit,
I sent you a PM related to the position and this thread. I would like to know as much as possible about what I'm getting myself into!
Thanks
Does anyone know what cities they are looking for Investigative Specialist to serve in? I understand at the interview they read a list of cities they are looking to fill positions? I did not get my call yet but am still hope full. I read my status and it still stated "Sent to hiring official" What ever that means. Any help would be appreciated. If anyone has any information email me at Jisdabomb1@aol.com.
Hello, I am interested in any advice that can be given concerning the interview process?
I am interviewing for positions with the FBI in SSG and as a Special Agent.
Any advice on how I may best prepare for these interviews would be most appreciated.
Thank you,
Aspirant
does anyone still read this message thread?
if anyone would like to know more about the job, I will answer any questions!!
G_Man
To G-Man:
What is the FBI's policy on hiring and previous drug use?
I used to work for the FBI's SSG team for about 10 years in a major metro area. This job is the biggest bullshit going. It's become much larger today than when I got in. There are SSG field units attatched to alot of FBI offices throughout the US. The bureau makes a big deal out of the G's and they do give them alot of support especially after 911. But basically it's alot of boring surveillance work where you follow subjects around from place to place. These subjects are usually diplomatic staff or suspected foreigners here that might be involved in terrorism. The money will go anywhere from a GS5 to GS 13. Not bad. But the job is basically a career dead-end with little chance of advancement. Some G's make it up the ladder to FBI Special Agent- A much better job. But alot don't... If you don't make a move then your stuck following people around for the rest of your career. A pretty thankless task. There's no gun or arrest power. You do get cool looking credentials and a badge. Most have take home Bureau cars. There is some travel and no heavy lifting or any real thinking either as you could sleep walk through this job. A lot of Bureau bureaucratic bullshit to deal with. If you don't mind the bullshit and a decent steady pay check; this job might be for you. But most people in this job complain about the job dissatisfaction and petty in-fighting that goes on regarding perks. cars, equipment, travel etc. If you have anything on the ball and want a challenging career where you have to use your brain ---then don't go to the SSG's......................
Good morning,
I recently was notified that I was chosen for a SSG position. I was told the next step is my Background Investigation. Can anyone tell me what is next? Poly? More interviews? I already had one interview. What does the pay start at for a GS 7? How long before I start training? How long is training? Do I live at Quantico when I go to training? You can email me if it's easier. Thanks a lot.
Many, many questions...
K
K....
If they called you and stated your background interview (BI) was next, that means they will start to conduct their investigation. It will comprise of them knocking on doors (to neighbors, roomates, employers, and they probably go to your college and talk to professors) They then will run a credit check on you and so forth.. The process, if I remember right, took 3-4 weeks.. You will not have anymore interviews, however, the background investigator (usually done by a third party whom is not employed by the FBI, but is a contracted worker through the FBI) will be busy interviewing your references, and that is done face to face.. So, if you would like the process to go fast, give your references a heads up and MAKE SURE THEY WILL BE available.. If your references put the BI off, it will slow your BI, thus taking longer..
After your BI is conducted, and the FBI deems you eligible for a TS clearance, you should get a call to complete your polygraph.. If you were not drug tested, they will do that too, and fingerprint you.. After that is all complete, the FBI office you process out of will send the paperwork (BI and polygraph) up to FBI HQ in DC for their blessing..
Then, after HQ gives you the nod the last step should be your physical.. The office you process out of will contact you and send you all of the stuff you will need for your physical (yeah, you have to collect poop samples yourself).. Let me offer you a word of advice, if you are not thorough with anything else, make an exception on this.. And MAKE SURE YOU ARE UP ON YOUR VACCINATIONS and can provide accurate documentation... I was held back a class due to an "adult polio booster" and I didn't know it until I had the office call HQ..
After you pass your physical (nothing to sweat) you're pretty much in... Don't be surprised if you have a long wait.. They seem to be slow on hiring G's right now due to financial reasons.. There is going to be a class sometime this year.. The class is approximately 4 weeks long, and they may or may not put you up in a hotel.. Some of the class is conducted in Quantico, but a vast majority of it is conducted in a discreet place..
As far as the pay goes, refer to this website:
http://www.opm.gov/oca/08tables/indexGS.asp
Your pay will depend on your field office your assigned to.. Places like L.A. and Houston have higher pay, but it's all based on the cost of living.. A GS-7 is anywhere between $36,800 to $43,000 .. But, like I said, the $43,000 could sound great, but in places like Los Angeles, that is low! But don't sweat it.. In two years, you'll be a GS-11..
I hope this was a help..
-54
Alot of good information in this thread. I gently remind you that support positions are still considered second class citizens in the fbi. If you are using this position as investment towards SA, good luck. Do not use this position as career investment towards another support position. It is a very poor investment of your time and career if you are trying to attain career status (dead end). I know I am very blunt but honest.
Regards.
Hi
I have a few questions.
But first let me say there was a class that started July 21st.
My question is this. I have done the polygraph, physical, interview, fingerprinting and drug test. I submitted my paperwork back in May. I had my poly etx June 12th. I recently had my physical in July. What is left? I have made it clear to all my reference that they would be contacted etc. None of them have gotten anything or heard anything. But my file has been gone a good 8 weeks. I also received note my credit was pulled a month ago but then they called and scheduled me for the physical.
Good or bad?
If you're still getting positive attention, that is a good thing. I recently finished up everything but now find myself on silent hill. From what I have been told, you will be receiving a letter in the mail when you're all done, and that it goes out to a number of people all at once in order to fill an available class. So they pick how many they need off the eligible list, and it goes from there. I guess this letter will contain your report date, reiterating your grade and pay, and additionally of course, the official "Welcome to the Bureau" lead off sentence. But the bottom line is, as it was said to me, that if you have completed everything, then you are in. If everything is good on their end, then you are good to go, hello 7 weeks in Quantico.
I am not at all new to the Federal hiring process, and that goes for a number of positions, and usually notifications of EOD dates are received through a phone call. In my experience, you might receive a phone call for most positions informing you of your final hire, followed by an e-email containing your information and instructive documents.
Nevertheless, if this is true of a class having begun July 21st, and your source is a good one, then it may be safe to say that we are in for a bit of a wait, perhaps a couple months –not to discourage anyone, but I've been doing this far too long to pump you-guys up only to be waiting for another 6 months of nothing. Come to think of it then, this would explain the July 2nd hiring push.
If it's already been noted on this forum, good, and I will say it again, to keep pumping out those 612's to agencies, and create as many job options as you can. Keep yourself busy by doing that, and it will go a lot faster. Before you know it, you will receive your cool as* Bureau badge and credentials, be walking into your field office, getting welcome aboard handshakes, your car keys, cell phone, pain in the as* paper work, swear in ceremony, and your SSG nick name (think of something cool, like "Pac Man", or "Spy Hunter". A couple years locked in, you'll be GS 11 or have move onto Team Leader, making good money. That's right, I did say good money, because I come from the gutter, literally, where this Devil Dog has done worse for much less –to include 4 months in An Nasiriyah Iraq/2003 getting paid $1,800 a month while trying to keep my limbs attached and AK rounds from scuffing my brand new flak jacket. So for those that have slammed this gig, ask me if I will be complaining while sipping Starbucks with my IPOD, note pad, pen, and camera pack in my car following folks possibly perpetrating the fraud in the homeland. It's all about what you make of it.
Now, retirement....yes.....now that is a different story, I agree, and having that 6C Law Enforcement coverage is something to smile about. But it's not the only way to smile.
What would be the effect of a three-year-old chapter 7 bankruptcy in the presence of no current bad credit issues on a recent credit report?
Not good at all. The FBI like most intelligence agencies has concluded that financial responsibility is mandatory for successful application. You will have to have many more years of clean financial history because there are too many applicants who will not have filed for bankruptcy.
Hey all,
I recently got a COE for an SSG IS position and just wanted to confirm a few rumors about the position that I have read on other sites. Is it true that they now give you your station assignment before sending you to class for your training? Also, I heard that this is automatic gs 11 promo after one year, is that true? None of this really matters to me, I'll take whatever they give me, I'm just curious as to how much I'm hearing out there is disinformation.
Thanks.
i applied for fbi investigative specialist announcment 05-2007-0044 I was found best qualified I also applied for surveillance specialist 05-2007-045 and was found best qualified . I was given a coe on May 15,2008 I have not heard from the fbi regarding the BI ,drug testing or the polygraph . I am a little worried that my application is no longer active I tried calling the fbi But no one has return my phone calls or email I am a little nervous I really want this job does anybody know who I can contact to see if I am still being considered for the position?
Cosmo,
I applied for similar positions with the FBI several years ago, around the time that this original thread started. The FBI is notorious for taking a very long time between notices. Be sure, however, that they will most likely not respond to your email or phone messages, based on my experience and others I have spoken with. I tried numerous times to contact my coordinator during my process but she never responded. The only way I was ever able to get through to someone was because my SO was employed with the FBI at the time and provided me with real contact info. My only advice on this is to be as patient as you can. You will hear something eventually.
Like you, I was told by one of my interviewers and a couple of coordinators that I was one of the best qualified and organized applicants and they looked forward to having me join their team. BUT, then came my false-positive polygraph result that ended any hope of ever becoming an FBI employee. My point is this: please don't get your hopes up too high. And make sure you educate yourself on the polygraph beforehand.
Good luck to you.
Mustbaliar: Not so much a polygraph inquiry, but I'd like to know more about your responses to the interview questions that resulted in a highly qualified status. There's an FBI SSG thread over on Federal Soup I'm active with, and your info may be helpful there. Now in regards to the false-positive, may I ask what that was in regards to? TIA.
Charlie,
I'm not sure I can pinpoint why they said what they said, but I can't impress upon you enough how important it is to be prepared for the interview (and polygraph). I was very prepared for the interview, but not at all prepared for the polygraph. Regarding my poly results, apparently I am a drug user/dealer/kingpin of some kind which is really quite amusing for anyone that knows me. Also according to the poly, I may be a spy with illicit foreign contacts. Good luck!
QuoteI'm not sure I can pinpoint why they said what they said, but I can't impress upon you enough how important it is to be prepared for the interview (and polygraph). I was very prepared for the interview, but not at all prepared for the polygraph. Regarding my poly results, apparently I am a drug user/dealer/kingpin of some kind which is really quite amusing for anyone that knows me. Also according to the poly, I may be a spy with illicit foreign contacts. Good luck!
It never fails to amaze the number of spies, and drug dealers who apply to work at the FBI. Luckily, we have an army of vigilant polygraph operators to "catch em" before they manage to get hired! Gotta go, Oprah is on after this commercial!
Dr. Phil Show viewer
With the evergrowing dangers a job like this brings and the possiblity of some MOB thug making you while suvaying them and pounding your face in, is it possible that someday SSG's might be armed??
Even some Mall cops are armed these days.
Dear nitehumper,
In a word, "NO_WAY!!" The only way you will get a weapon in the FBI is over the last Special Agents' dead carcass. That is what makes them special from the rest. They are armed and everyone else is not in the FBI. Take away that last vestige of power and the whole Hoover legacy takes a bloodbath. This is what is making them so upset with Mueller, he is not "one of them". The IA rise to power and prestige within the FBI is completely upsetting the apple cart of hen pecking order. There is grave concern that the worst Special Agent in the FBI is not automatically assumed better than the best "Support Employee" by default.
It is really amazing to observe the insecurity of these "top notch best of the best" people.
Good luck getting a weapon.
Hey I am almost done the application process and awaiting my call to start class. Can you please let me know more of your likes/dislikes and give me a little more info without violating the code?
Quote from: Fair_Chance on Apr 30, 2004, 09:30 PMDear kodak,
Positives, paycheck and benefits everyweek including four weeks vacation after three years, access to information that few people are aware off, some cases are very interesting.
Negatives, you cannot tell anyone about anything interesting about your job because it is all top secret, you cannot impress your friends about what you do because it will be frowned upon by the security people of the FBI. The FBI wants you to keep an exceptionally low profile almost to the point that no one is aware of the fact that you work for the FBI period. The FBI is experiencing a low point of prestige after the 911 commission findings and the Director, to his credit, is fighting with all of his might to keep as much work under the FBI as possible.
You can contact me with specific question via private messages about anything more because I do not want to bore people with the details.
Regards.
@ SSG Recruit
I was hoping you could please send me any info on becoming an investigative specialist. I am very interested in working for the FBI, but IDK if i meet the requirements for that IS job.
Looking for a full time position after a long time in local law enforcement. Worked JTTF for 4 years as part of my gig. Are there any age requirements for the SSG.
Readers,
I have been reading from afar. I waited for a new SSL before posting. George, you might want to do it more often than every year. You have no idea how irritating you are to so many Agencies.
My first and last post for a while. Keep up the great work.
To all of the new readers, you need no more than to read all of the existing posts to know what you need to know. It is what it is. The Emperor still has no clothes but everyone who can see clearly is afraid to say the truth. Those that do will be beat down.
The general attitude in government is to surround yourself with yes-men. It helps them to cope with their disillusions. When something goes wrong, everyone asks, "Why didn't somebody say something?" They were trained to say yes, why would you ask them to say anything else?
Say the truth and lose your job. Say nothing and this country will lose our Constitution. Caught between a rock and a hard place in the landslide of our government, what is an executive branch worker to do?
Quote from: Fair_Chance on Aug 29, 2013, 09:10 PMSay the truth and lose your job.Say nothing and this country will lose our Constitution. Caught between a rock and a hard place in the landslide of our government, what is an executive branch worker to do?
Take notes. Document waste, fraud, and abuse. Leak.
Quote from: Fair_Chance on Aug 29, 2013, 09:10 PMI waited for a new SSL before posting. George, you might want to do it more often than every year.
FYI, AntiPolygraph.org's server presently supports Perfect Forward Secrecy if you connect using the latest versions of Firefox (including the Tor Browser), Chrome/Chromium, or Opera. However, sessions established using Internet Explorer or Safari will not be so protected.
I am indeed considering changing the certificate on a more frequent basis.
Sorry to revive an old thread but I am seeking current info on FBI SSG. If anyone is willing to talk please let me know.
Quote from: 65414A4F452E0 on May 06, 2004, 01:03 PMQuote from: triple x on May 05, 2004, 11:06 PMkodak,
Many SSG personnel [not all] are usually hired into what is known within the bureau as Professional Support Positions, generally GS-11 positions. SSG personnel often work directly with Special Agents. They are not issued weapons, nor do they carry a badge. They are however, given bureau cars, credit cards, bureau credentials that look nearly identical to Special Agents. Additionally, they hold TS security clearances. Support personnel attend squad meetings, and are a big part of case workload to include big arrests. They are also allowed overtime if authorized.
There are various specialties within SSG units and its assigned personnel. For the most part, SSG support personnel are treated no different than SA's, and in some cases, respected more than some agents within SO and SSG units.
A typical day in the life of an SSG support employee is a very interesting and at times, exciting career. It all depends on what you find exciting. If you are assigned to an SSG unit, you will be treated the same as if you were a special agent. Make no mistake about it, SA's trust, depend on, and rely heavily on their support personnel.
SSG personnel do a lot of surveillance support, photography, and generally works with special types of surveillance and counter intelligence, surveillance equipment, electronics, cameras, computer specialists, various types of analyst, video, audio, etc., etc., and the list goes on.
Do not be fooled into thinking an SSG position is not a desirable job, they are good positions that can lead to other things within the bureau. Look at it as getting a foot in the door, and remember, SSG support positions can lead to higher paying GS support positions out-side of an SSG/SO unit.
Good luck with your future FBI endeavors. .
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Triple x
Triple x,
Have you had any experience as an investigative specialist or know folks in the position?
Is do you know of any of the negatives about the job?
Thanks