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Posted by Saidme
- Jul 28, 2003, 03:57 PMHosed
Congratulations! I'm sure you're on your way to a successful law enforcement career. Regarding your last comment: Actually polygraphs (testing techniques/evaluations) are designed to favor the examinee.
Congratulations! I'm sure you're on your way to a successful law enforcement career. Regarding your last comment: Actually polygraphs (testing techniques/evaluations) are designed to favor the examinee.
Posted by Hosed
- Jul 28, 2003, 03:09 PMSaidMe:
Thanks. Just to let you know, I passed my POLY without CMs (I was too chicken to try them). However, I can recall when the "accusatory" questions were asked, I felt the anxiety build! I was truthful, but I thought for sure I was going to down in flames. However, I was passed without any problems. The only question that was asked to me was if I was having trouble with a particular control question (the funny thing was, that was probably one I was more comfortable with-so whether that was theatrics or not, I dunno. )
Who Knows...we may be working together one day and won't know it.
P.S. I still feel that these tests are biased against truthful individuals.
Thanks. Just to let you know, I passed my POLY without CMs (I was too chicken to try them). However, I can recall when the "accusatory" questions were asked, I felt the anxiety build! I was truthful, but I thought for sure I was going to down in flames. However, I was passed without any problems. The only question that was asked to me was if I was having trouble with a particular control question (the funny thing was, that was probably one I was more comfortable with-so whether that was theatrics or not, I dunno. )
Who Knows...we may be working together one day and won't know it.
P.S. I still feel that these tests are biased against truthful individuals.
Posted by Saidme
- Jul 28, 2003, 02:33 PMHosed
You are correct, CM's can never be confirmed completely without admissions/confessions. However, CM's can be detected by the examiner and in a pre-employment examination, it really doesn't matter whether you're DI or CM's are employed. You'll most likely be DQ'd for either action. Even lacking an admission/confession to the CM's. In my experiences, examinee's who employ CM's usually go DI anyway and at the very best (for them) no opinion.
You are correct, CM's can never be confirmed completely without admissions/confessions. However, CM's can be detected by the examiner and in a pre-employment examination, it really doesn't matter whether you're DI or CM's are employed. You'll most likely be DQ'd for either action. Even lacking an admission/confession to the CM's. In my experiences, examinee's who employ CM's usually go DI anyway and at the very best (for them) no opinion.
Posted by Hosed
- Jul 28, 2003, 02:10 PMSaid Me:
You fail to mention ONE case where CMs are discovered unless the subject admits it.
You fail to mention ONE case where CMs are discovered unless the subject admits it.
Posted by orolan
- Jul 24, 2003, 01:56 PMHosed,
How could any person who has experienced the infamous Microsoft Windows "Blue Screen of Death" ever trust any type of software algorithm to detect deception?
How could any person who has experienced the infamous Microsoft Windows "Blue Screen of Death" ever trust any type of software algorithm to detect deception?
Posted by Saidme
- Jul 24, 2003, 12:36 AMHosed
That seems to be an excellent name for your. I'll give you an examiner's point of view. The analysis software (polyscore and others) you discuss is so-so. I think they've got a long way to go. Regarding your CM's, their pretty easy to spot regardless of the crap George and Drew put out on this website. My advice: If you plan on using CM's in your examination, don't be too disappointed if you're called on the carpet about it. I don't know if it's a pre-employment or specific issue, but odds are you'll probably be caught. Make the right choice!
That seems to be an excellent name for your. I'll give you an examiner's point of view. The analysis software (polyscore and others) you discuss is so-so. I think they've got a long way to go. Regarding your CM's, their pretty easy to spot regardless of the crap George and Drew put out on this website. My advice: If you plan on using CM's in your examination, don't be too disappointed if you're called on the carpet about it. I don't know if it's a pre-employment or specific issue, but odds are you'll probably be caught. Make the right choice!
Posted by Hosed
- Jul 23, 2003, 09:50 PM I have a heard a lot about the latest computerized polys complete with very sophisticated analysis software. I can see how these methods could EASILY work on the old analog or even some of the older digital ones. However, it would seem that with some sophisticated software, it would be easy to either spot deception or CMs. What's your take?
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