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[quote author=Skeptic link=msg=9067 date=1057217557]
[quote author=treetop link=topic=0.0 date=1057139633]During a Relevant/Irrelevant test, when should one employ countermeasures?  How can countermeasures be used to avoid give a "con-spec-nificant" result?  From what I have read, I would be lead to believe that I would use countermeasures to enhance the responces to irrelevant questions and try to relax and keep baseline breathing during the relevant questions.  Any advice or thoughts?[/quote]

You might try randomly augmenting on various relevant questions as well as on irrelevant and "sacrifice relevant" questions that come at the beginning/end of a question set.

You might also try keeping a relatively augmented state going for most of the session.

I should note, however, that I know of no one who has tried either of those techniques, so can't gauge the results.

As you noted, examiners on R/I exams (e.g. for NSA screening) look for "con-spec-nificant" responses.  I would think the key, if there is one, would be to obscure findings on the "specific" and "significant" criteria.

The bottom line, though is that R/I exams primarily seem to be used not for "truth telling", but rather as leverage for getting confessions.

Skeptic
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Posted by treetop

- Jul 03, 2003, 06:20 AM

Thank you for the information. I am expecting the law enforcement agency I am applying for to use the CQT. If they do, then I think I will do very well.

Posted by Skeptic

- Jul 03, 2003, 03:32 AM

Quote from: treetop on Jul 02, 2003, 05:53 AMDuring a Relevant/Irrelevant test, when should one employ countermeasures? How can countermeasures be used to avoid give a "con-spec-nificant" result? From what I have read, I would be lead to believe that I would use countermeasures to enhance the responces to irrelevant questions and try to relax and keep baseline breathing during the relevant questions. Any advice or thoughts?

Treetop,
Unfortunately, the R/I test doesn't seem to have an easy physiological countermeasure like the CQT, since there are no control questions upon which one may augment responses. The advantage, though, is that the R/I exam is so thoroughly flawed and produces so many false positives (and that fact is widely known) that behavioral countermeasures combined with a lack of confessions may carry you through.

You might try randomly augmenting on various relevant questions as well as on irrelevant and "sacrifice relevant" questions that come at the beginning/end of a question set.

You might also try keeping a relatively augmented state going for most of the session.

I should note, however, that I know of no one who has tried either of those techniques, so can't gauge the results.

As you noted, examiners on R/I exams (e.g. for NSA screening) look for "con-spec-nificant" responses. I would think the key, if there is one, would be to obscure findings on the "specific" and "significant" criteria.

The bottom line, though is that R/I exams primarily seem to be used not for "truth telling", but rather as leverage for getting confessions.

Skeptic

Posted by treetop

- Jul 02, 2003, 05:53 AM

During a Relevant/Irrelevant test, when should one employ countermeasures? How can countermeasures be used to avoid give a "con-spec-nificant" result? From what I have read, I would be lead to believe that I would use countermeasures to enhance the responces to irrelevant questions and try to relax and keep baseline breathing during the relevant questions. Any advice or thoughts?