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Posted by Twoblock
- Jul 13, 2003, 12:45 PMSgt. Patterson
Taking every thing you write as factual, I believe you have two avenues in which to fight this (using the term "sometimes the best defense is a good offense").
1. Filing a malicious prosecution law suit against the state. Not knowing Georgia laws, I don't believe there is a statue of limitation for this filing. You have to file in the county that arrested you but then, file a "Change of Venue" motion to get it out of that county. Keep in mind that state courts are somewhat political.
2. You have an excellant harrasment lawsuit in federal court. Forget about state court on this one because they will shoot you down and you will have to go the appeal route to get it in federal court.
Being in the military, I believe you could get a JAG lawyer to help you with this if you wanted file pro se (do it yourself). After you file these actions you probably will have a better chance of picking up a contingency lawyer.
Bud, use JAG. They are there to help as well as to prosecute malitary personel. Our tax money pays their salary too.
Taking every thing you write as factual, I believe you have two avenues in which to fight this (using the term "sometimes the best defense is a good offense").
1. Filing a malicious prosecution law suit against the state. Not knowing Georgia laws, I don't believe there is a statue of limitation for this filing. You have to file in the county that arrested you but then, file a "Change of Venue" motion to get it out of that county. Keep in mind that state courts are somewhat political.
2. You have an excellant harrasment lawsuit in federal court. Forget about state court on this one because they will shoot you down and you will have to go the appeal route to get it in federal court.
Being in the military, I believe you could get a JAG lawyer to help you with this if you wanted file pro se (do it yourself). After you file these actions you probably will have a better chance of picking up a contingency lawyer.
Bud, use JAG. They are there to help as well as to prosecute malitary personel. Our tax money pays their salary too.
Posted by orolan
- Jul 13, 2003, 06:33 AMF.,
OK. I believe you. My apologies to you and your family. I am well aware of the tactics of DFCS, Lowndes County law enforcement and the Valdosta probation office.
Just so you know I'm for real on that, I'll tell you that the jail is out on the Madison Highway, just outside the southwest end of town. The probation office is still downtown on Hill Avenue, in the block just east of Ashley Street. I lived in Lowndes County for 13 years up in Hahira and went to Lowndes High, and my mother, brother, ex-wife and one of my daughters still live there.
I have never heard of DFCS telling someone to take a polygraph, but that certainly doesn't mean it isn't so. What a mess. I wish you the best of luck.
OK. I believe you. My apologies to you and your family. I am well aware of the tactics of DFCS, Lowndes County law enforcement and the Valdosta probation office.
Just so you know I'm for real on that, I'll tell you that the jail is out on the Madison Highway, just outside the southwest end of town. The probation office is still downtown on Hill Avenue, in the block just east of Ashley Street. I lived in Lowndes County for 13 years up in Hahira and went to Lowndes High, and my mother, brother, ex-wife and one of my daughters still live there.
I have never heard of DFCS telling someone to take a polygraph, but that certainly doesn't mean it isn't so. What a mess. I wish you the best of luck.
Posted by F. Patterson
- Jul 13, 2003, 03:53 AMSorry,
I have been fighting for my children for 2 years. I get made easy do to many judge before they under stand.
orolan, If I seem upset I was. You placed what you believe. Put on glass of truth. It is not fair out there.
I have given you my name, with that you can look up I have never been arrested till my arrest in Lowndes County Georgia. I am not a convicted sex offender nor have I ever been placed on a list as one. I was in a personal fight with a DFCS worker, and she was to powerful.
Again sorry and God Bless..
I have been fighting for my children for 2 years. I get made easy do to many judge before they under stand.
orolan, If I seem upset I was. You placed what you believe. Put on glass of truth. It is not fair out there.
I have given you my name, with that you can look up I have never been arrested till my arrest in Lowndes County Georgia. I am not a convicted sex offender nor have I ever been placed on a list as one. I was in a personal fight with a DFCS worker, and she was to powerful.
Again sorry and God Bless..
Posted by F. Patterson
- Jul 13, 2003, 03:45 AMOops, almost forgot:
orolan, Did you say fish story;
My wife was 20 when I was arrested. The detective was given false information from DFCS. My wife and I got married when she was over 18.
Next, you are right, convicted sex offender and on probation can have a job. In a none family area. I was in jail with a 20 year old male convicted sex offender and on probation, his probation officer let him go to K-mart to get work close. When in K-mart he was seen near the in the toy department by a officer. Guess where he is now, finishing off his last ten years of probation in Lowndes County Jail.
If you don't believe they can make a person that was only accused of the crime to take the polygraph test. call and ask. 229-333-5200. That is the DFCS telephone number. Better then that. When I get my case plan I will post it.
To finish, I am fight DFCS, they make law from what I have learned. Just look it up for your self. They are being sued by many people.
To me you seem to be on of the people that feel we live in a fair and just world. I thouhgt that before returning from Bosnia.
orolan, Did you say fish story;
My wife was 20 when I was arrested. The detective was given false information from DFCS. My wife and I got married when she was over 18.
Next, you are right, convicted sex offender and on probation can have a job. In a none family area. I was in jail with a 20 year old male convicted sex offender and on probation, his probation officer let him go to K-mart to get work close. When in K-mart he was seen near the in the toy department by a officer. Guess where he is now, finishing off his last ten years of probation in Lowndes County Jail.
If you don't believe they can make a person that was only accused of the crime to take the polygraph test. call and ask. 229-333-5200. That is the DFCS telephone number. Better then that. When I get my case plan I will post it.
To finish, I am fight DFCS, they make law from what I have learned. Just look it up for your self. They are being sued by many people.
To me you seem to be on of the people that feel we live in a fair and just world. I thouhgt that before returning from Bosnia.
Posted by F. Patterson
- Jul 13, 2003, 03:29 AMOK,
Here it is. my children are in DFCS foster care system. This happened when I was in jail.
Now the state is being sued by many families, just like me. The Governor can stop a person from being put to death, but if your children are wrongfully to by DFCS he can not step in and help.
In my records at DFCS says I was arrested for child molestation. The point is I was part of a witch hunt. I got in a personal fight for one of my sons that was taken when I was in Bosnia with the 2/121 (M) INF. out of Georgia. When I got back they tryed to force me to give up my rights. I love my son very much so I fought; the prouble was DFCS is to powerful and corrupted in Goergia. If you do not believe my just do some web surfing.
Now to my polygraph test, I am now in Alaska serving with Task Force Alaskan Road. I am in the Army National Guard. When I get back i must take the polygraph or loose all rights to my children in DFCS foster care. My wife and I have 3 kids. They can and have ordered me to take the polygraph. DFCS from what my attorney has said, does have the power to for me to test.
Now, I am not a lier and am willing to show you I am on the line. The only reason I wrote in the first place because I have been through hell do to DFCS and liers like the freak that started this thred. I am a soldier and a good father. I have no reason to make this up.
To prove it, SGT F. Patterson is my real name, I am serving Annette Island, AK. You can also look this up on the internet, after finding it ask for SGT. Patterson-you will see I am here and very liked soldier. My command knows what is going on with my children. They are trying to help me and fell the polygraph is against my rights; but they just like the Governor of Georgia can not help.
I came to this sight for help; I do not wish to loose my children to a evil State Ran Agency. I am going to take the test, I have to in order to get my kids back.
Well?
Here it is. my children are in DFCS foster care system. This happened when I was in jail.
Now the state is being sued by many families, just like me. The Governor can stop a person from being put to death, but if your children are wrongfully to by DFCS he can not step in and help.
In my records at DFCS says I was arrested for child molestation. The point is I was part of a witch hunt. I got in a personal fight for one of my sons that was taken when I was in Bosnia with the 2/121 (M) INF. out of Georgia. When I got back they tryed to force me to give up my rights. I love my son very much so I fought; the prouble was DFCS is to powerful and corrupted in Goergia. If you do not believe my just do some web surfing.
Now to my polygraph test, I am now in Alaska serving with Task Force Alaskan Road. I am in the Army National Guard. When I get back i must take the polygraph or loose all rights to my children in DFCS foster care. My wife and I have 3 kids. They can and have ordered me to take the polygraph. DFCS from what my attorney has said, does have the power to for me to test.
Now, I am not a lier and am willing to show you I am on the line. The only reason I wrote in the first place because I have been through hell do to DFCS and liers like the freak that started this thred. I am a soldier and a good father. I have no reason to make this up.
To prove it, SGT F. Patterson is my real name, I am serving Annette Island, AK. You can also look this up on the internet, after finding it ask for SGT. Patterson-you will see I am here and very liked soldier. My command knows what is going on with my children. They are trying to help me and fell the polygraph is against my rights; but they just like the Governor of Georgia can not help.
I came to this sight for help; I do not wish to loose my children to a evil State Ran Agency. I am going to take the test, I have to in order to get my kids back.
Well?
Posted by orolan
- Jul 12, 2003, 10:34 PMF. Patterson et al,
Mr. Patterson, your fish story is pretty high on the list. I might put you right under RETAO, in 2nd place.
QuoteNumber one, if your a convicted sex offender and on probation you do no leave your house with out getting aproveal from your probation officer.Not so. Sex offenders, like anybody else on probation in Georgia, go to work. And they don't call their PO every morning to ask if they can. Most sex offenders do have curfews, and some have home confinement conditions that do require that they ask for permission to leave the house at any time other than what has been pre-arranged for work, etc.
QuoteNumber two, if your a convicted sex offender and on probation and you are seen within the same area as a child you go right back to jail to finish of your time.Wrong again. You can't go to the grocery store without the possibility arising of being within the same area of a child. What the probation conditions prohibit is actually talking to the child, or being in an area that is specifically for children, like a playground.
QuoteNumber three, if your a convicted sex offender and on probation you are not allowed internet or any other media that may contain pornigraphic sights. So how did you post this trash.This used to be true, until two different Federal Appeals Courts ruled it unconstitutional last year. A probationer can no longer be denied Internet access, but he/she can be restricted regarding what sites are accessed as long as the restriction is relevant to the offense they are on probation for. Georgia does have an "un-written" rule, where a PO will tell the probationer they can't get online and if they do, the probationer is violated for "failure to obey all instructions". As far as I know nobody has contested this yet on the grounds that the "instruction" must itself be lawful before a violation can occur.
QuoteI was arrested falsely for child molestation on my wifeGeorgia law allows for marriages to occur at ages under 16 only in the event of pregnancy or childbirth. You must have gotten her pregnant, subsequently managed to get a judge and her parents to allow you to marry her, and then got arrested for the molestation charge, all before she became 16. Because once she became 16, she would be of the age of consent, and you couldn't have been arrested for molestation.
Quote...I am being forced by Georgia to take a sexaul history polygraph...No dice. Georgia law only requires these of probationers convicted of sexual offenses, not citizens who were merely accused of a crime and subsequently vindicated.
Mr. Patterson, your fish story is pretty high on the list. I might put you right under RETAO, in 2nd place.
Posted by Twoblock
- Jul 12, 2003, 03:58 PMMr. Patterson
Like George, I too, would like to know the Georgia statue that allows punishment without a conviction. If the charges were dropped, you have no legal responsibility to the state.
My question is; what is the legal age for wedlock without consent in Georgia? Was your girlfriend under the legal age and you eloped and got married? Even then, if the charges were dropped and there was not a conviction, I believe you owe the state nothing. Something ain't right here.
Like George, I too, would like to know the Georgia statue that allows punishment without a conviction. If the charges were dropped, you have no legal responsibility to the state.
My question is; what is the legal age for wedlock without consent in Georgia? Was your girlfriend under the legal age and you eloped and got married? Even then, if the charges were dropped and there was not a conviction, I believe you owe the state nothing. Something ain't right here.
Posted by Saidme
- Jul 12, 2003, 01:55 PMGeorge
Obviously F. Patterson is blowing smoke up your skirt or he/she has left out some very important information. Like maybe his/her conviction on child molestation charges! Most likely just a bunch of BS.
Obviously F. Patterson is blowing smoke up your skirt or he/she has left out some very important information. Like maybe his/her conviction on child molestation charges! Most likely just a bunch of BS.
Posted by George W. Maschke
- Jul 12, 2003, 07:42 AMMr. Patterson,
On what legal basis are you being forced by the state of Georgia to submit to a sexual history polygraph interrogation?
On what legal basis are you being forced by the state of Georgia to submit to a sexual history polygraph interrogation?
Posted by F. Patterson
- Jul 12, 2003, 01:49 AMRETAO what a lier, boy I thought I had seen some real big fish stories in my life. Heheh, I guess I was wrong.
I was arrested falsely for child molestation on my wife, Yes I said my wife! All charges where dropped and the detective was fired.
OK, to the point.
Number one, if your a convicted sex offender and on probation you do no leave your house with out getting aproveal from your probation officer.
Number two, if your a convicted sex offender and on probation and you are seen within the same area as a child you go right back to jail to finish of your time.
Number three, if your a convicted sex offender and on probation you are not allowed internet or any other media that may contain pornigraphic sights. So how did you post this trash.
Last, there is a few other points I can cover but I have said plenty. Learn the law before you lie. Because of ace holes like you getting people shook-up my witch hunts start and honest people go to jail.
Because of people like you I am being forced by Georgia to take a sexaul history polygraph even thow I have never be convicted of a crime and never arrested before the false arrest. The people doing the test already thank I am a molester so passing it is hard.
So, for you go to hell!!!!!
I was arrested falsely for child molestation on my wife, Yes I said my wife! All charges where dropped and the detective was fired.
OK, to the point.
Number one, if your a convicted sex offender and on probation you do no leave your house with out getting aproveal from your probation officer.
Number two, if your a convicted sex offender and on probation and you are seen within the same area as a child you go right back to jail to finish of your time.
Number three, if your a convicted sex offender and on probation you are not allowed internet or any other media that may contain pornigraphic sights. So how did you post this trash.
Last, there is a few other points I can cover but I have said plenty. Learn the law before you lie. Because of ace holes like you getting people shook-up my witch hunts start and honest people go to jail.
Because of people like you I am being forced by Georgia to take a sexaul history polygraph even thow I have never be convicted of a crime and never arrested before the false arrest. The people doing the test already thank I am a molester so passing it is hard.
So, for you go to hell!!!!!
Posted by polylawman
- Jun 17, 2003, 12:51 AMI have to admit george, and I can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with you. It does sound ridiculous and hard to believe.
But what if it's not. Could it be legit? Maybe.
Are you willing to take chance?
Anything to advance YOUR cause. Huh georgie
But what if it's not. Could it be legit? Maybe.
Are you willing to take chance?
Anything to advance YOUR cause. Huh georgie
Posted by beech trees
- Jun 09, 2003, 05:10 PMQuote from: Batman on Jun 09, 2003, 04:01 PM2-Block,
My first guess would be Beech Trees.
Batman
Shouldn't you be out draining a pond Batman?
Posted by Batman
- Jun 09, 2003, 04:01 PM2-Block,
My first guess would be Beech Trees.
Batman
My first guess would be Beech Trees.
Batman
Posted by Skeptic
- Jun 08, 2003, 05:21 PMQuote from: Amused on Jun 08, 2003, 03:36 PMCome on twobits, enlighten us. Who do you think is responsible for this "vast right wing conspiracy"?
Amused,
There's a challenge awaiting your attention in the "complaint against polygrapher" thread.
Skeptic
Posted by Amused
- Jun 08, 2003, 03:36 PMCome on twobits, enlighten us. Who do you think is responsible for this "vast right wing conspiracy"?