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Posted by Mr.D.
- Dec 24, 2000, 02:48 AMNate, Read the lie behind the lie detector and hit up Doug Williams @ www.polygraph.com. You can speak to Doug directly. Between this web site and Doug's, you cant lose!
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Posted by George Maschke (Guest)
- Dec 21, 2000, 01:25 PMNate, with regard to your question:
An audio or video recording would be a valuable safeguard against misconduct on the part of the polygrapher. If you have to go the legal route, it would probably be useful to be able to testify that the polygrapher refused to allow the "test" to be recorded (if that turns out to be the case).
QuoteI was wondering if I should ask the polygrapher if I could record the exam and also request a copy of the question and results.You should check with your lawyer. You might have the right under Kansas law to insist that the exam be recorded and to be provided with a copy of the report and polygrams. There is no legitimate reason for a polygrapher to object to this, but that doesn't mean that your's won't.
An audio or video recording would be a valuable safeguard against misconduct on the part of the polygrapher. If you have to go the legal route, it would probably be useful to be able to testify that the polygrapher refused to allow the "test" to be recorded (if that turns out to be the case).
Posted by George Maschke (Guest)
- Dec 20, 2000, 07:19 PMNate,
Have you asked to be "tested" by a different polygrapher? If not, you should. I concur in your analysis that the polygrapher who wrongly accused you of deception has a conflict of interest. Have you discussed this with your lawyer? If he/she were to write a letter to your department asking that you be granted a polygraph "test" with a different polygrapher, your request will doubtless be taken more seriously.
With regard to asking your polygrapher to sign a form, I think that it's a wonderful idea, in principle. The Missouri Union of Law Enforcement (MULE) has a polygraph form that MULE members present to polygraphers when they are ordered to submit to polygraph "testing." You could adapt the language to your situation. But I fully expect that your polygrapher will become irate if you present him/her with such a form. Nonetheless, doing so may help to protect your rights, and make your polygrapher more circumspect about accusing you of deception. It would be prudent to discuss your options with your lawyer.
Have you read The Lie Behind the Lie Detector? If not, you need to -- and well before your polygraph. It will help you understand how your polygrapher ended up accusing you of deception the first time when you told the truth, and will explain how you can protect yourself against a false positive outcome the next time around.
If you haven't already done so:
Have you asked to be "tested" by a different polygrapher? If not, you should. I concur in your analysis that the polygrapher who wrongly accused you of deception has a conflict of interest. Have you discussed this with your lawyer? If he/she were to write a letter to your department asking that you be granted a polygraph "test" with a different polygrapher, your request will doubtless be taken more seriously.
With regard to asking your polygrapher to sign a form, I think that it's a wonderful idea, in principle. The Missouri Union of Law Enforcement (MULE) has a polygraph form that MULE members present to polygraphers when they are ordered to submit to polygraph "testing." You could adapt the language to your situation. But I fully expect that your polygrapher will become irate if you present him/her with such a form. Nonetheless, doing so may help to protect your rights, and make your polygrapher more circumspect about accusing you of deception. It would be prudent to discuss your options with your lawyer.
Have you read The Lie Behind the Lie Detector? If not, you need to -- and well before your polygraph. It will help you understand how your polygrapher ended up accusing you of deception the first time when you told the truth, and will explain how you can protect yourself against a false positive outcome the next time around.
If you haven't already done so:
- Do write a detailed memorandum for record of all that transpired during your first pre-employment polygraph. This will help you should you have to go the legal route.
- Write a formal letter of protest to the department with which you are applying for employment, maintaining your truthfulness and contesting the polygrapher's opinion.
Posted by Nate (Guest)
- Dec 20, 2000, 03:33 PMOk, if you read my last post you know my story so I won't repeat it. I'm going to be taking a new polygraph test for a different police department and of course they will send me to the polygraph examiner that already failed me. I already have an attorney on my side if I want to go the legal route. I was wondering if I should ask the polygrapher if I could record the exam and also request a copy of the question and results. The way I feel, he makes me sign all these forms for not sueing him, shouldn't he be under the same rules by signing my papers? On the other hand this tactic could just make him mad and fail me agian. What should I do?