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Posted by Seeker
- Feb 26, 2003, 02:55 AM
So, are ANY of you polygraph boys going to answer my question posted earlier,(granted it was in another thread, but since you all apparently are more eager to be in this one, I bring it here) or are you too busy with your smack talking contest to do so?
Again, for the boys who apparently consider silliness more valid than addressing a real question:
Are there any medications or medical conditions that affect the results of your play with your toy of choice -- the polygraph?
I am not asking about a one time dosage type deal, but more of a medical history that has impossed a medical treatment that can interfere with your squiggly line maker? For instance, how about blood pressure medicine taken by a person over an extended period of time? Will this affect the outcome? Or, how about someone who is a chronic smoker who is going through withdrawals because they have had to go without smoking during the song and dance you give in the beginning of an exam? Maybe even a person who is on chemo therapy?
Come on fellows, give this simple woman some enlightenment please, and wait until school is out before engaging in any more stick poking.
Sincerely,
Seeker
Posted by steincj
- Feb 26, 2003, 02:24 AMQuote from: Torpedo on Feb 25, 2003, 11:51 PM
See Batman, I told you so.....apparently you "tripped the right trigger"....
Yes, Torpedo, you moron, you tripped the right trigger. Your inability to properly master the English language has sparked another GRAMMAR posting from me.
PLEASE NOTE: These are my views and mine alone. They do not represent anyone else on this site!!!!
Quote(I think way down deep he wants to be a Justice Leaguer - i.e. Captain America??)
Although I know you would get a "rise" out of seeing me in a tight fitting outfit, I am certainly NOT interested in seeing your "torpedo."
Though my views drift more toward center than other anti-polygraph types on this site, I assure you, I an not going to ask permission to join your "treehouse club" anytime soon.
Quoteanybody with reasonable knowledge knows that dogs (laps dogs too!) lack opposing thumbs, therefore they cannot hold a stick with which to poke through the fence.
Thank you for the proof that you have no "reasonable knowledge." What dogs and many other animals lack are "opposable thumbs," not opposing thumbs. Opposing thumbs is best described in how you challenge your co-workers to a match of wits (others call it thumb wrestling).
QuoteQuad error demonstrata, you must be the lap dog at whom the stick is being poked....and it IS a long stick...the question is now....whose lap dog?...(poke, poke) Nice doggie!
Since English, a language you have no concept of, was derived from Latin, I probably shouldn't be beating you up for your improper use of a Latin phrase (and when I say Latin, I don't mean Mexico/Central America).
Anyway, the phrase is:
quod erat demonstrandum, meaning, literally, "which was to be proved"
I decided I would beat you up for butchering it, because our beautiful English language gave us the wonderful QED to use in its place, so that simple minded folk like you don't have to worry about the actual Latin words. But, Torpedo, why should I expect you to take the easy way out, when you can attempt the hard way, and look stupid at the same time?
Chris
Posted by Torpedo
- Feb 25, 2003, 11:51 PMSee Batman, I told you so.....apparently you "tripped the right trigger"....Now we know what Chris' problem was, and he finally realized that he was standing on the wrong side of the fence. I'm a lap dog? Hardly...listen to yourself Captain Chris (I think way down deep he wants to be a Justice Leaguer - i.e. Captain America??) anybody with reasonable knowledge knows that dogs (laps dogs too!) lack opposing thumbs, therefore they cannot hold a stick with which to poke through the fence. Quad error demonstrata, you must be the lap dog at whom the stick is being poked....and it IS a long stick...the question is now....whose lap dog?...(poke, poke) Nice doggie!
Posted by steincj
- Feb 25, 2003, 10:53 PMQuote from: Batman on Feb 25, 2003, 04:49 PM
How's your life going anyway, post-polygraph? Really, I want to know, I care.
Ladies and Gentlemen, I proudly present to you, SARCASM!!!
Well done, Batman, you finally got that sarcasm thing done right. Now am I going to have to wait another 50 posts before you do it again?
I'd just like to throw out there for the group the hypocrisy of the caped cruasder. I wrote this to him:
QuoteAnd sometimes I wonder if I waste my intellect on your posts.
Basically, Batman, you are a waste. You provide little to the intellectual discussion of the anti pre-employment polygraph debate.
to which he replied:
QuoteDo you guys really have to wonder why folks like Dr. Barland don't post on this site anymore? Do you think "idiots" like me drove him away? How about the possibility he either found your constant harping to be rather dull, boring, and not at all stimulating; or maybe he simply realized that there is no debating zealots. The only thing you can do with zealots is either ignore them, or let the "idiots" deal with them.
Well..........HERE'S BATMAN!!!
The fact that you goofballs keep responding to folks like myself and Torpedo does not speak well for your individual or combined intellects.
So Batman, thank you for reassuring to me that you are nothing but "cannon fodder" for the pro-polygraph side. You and Torpedo and your other lap dogs can sit behind your "fence" and poke the stick at us all you want.
When you point it my way, though, you'd better get a bigger stick, because your current antics will no longer gain my attention.
Chris
Posted by Skeptic
- Feb 25, 2003, 05:33 PMQuote from: Batman on Feb 25, 2003, 04:49 PM
Do I want your "honest analysis"? I love that qualifier. It reminds me of some of the poor, innocent criminals who, when asked a question start with, "Honestly?"; or "Do you want an honest answer?"
Batman -- you really need to get out more. Not everything is someone trying to get away with something. In fact, most people get through life just fine without treating all human interaction as an attempt to manipulate others.
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If you can be honest Septic, please give me your "honest analysis".
I've never lied to you, Batman. I haven't even misled you -- I don't think you can claim the same, can you? However, I've certainly tried to rile you up. In my humble opinion, though, I honestly feel you come here to make yourself feel better about what you do. It's classic projection and rationalization: by condemning others here as "crybabies" or "liars", you don't have to face the fact that you quite possibly screw people over every day. The problem isn't you. It's everyone else, and coming here gives you the opportunity to tell them.
Skeptic
Posted by Batman
- Feb 25, 2003, 04:49 PMChris,
You can't waste what you don't have.
How's your life going anyway, post-polygraph? Really, I want to know, I care.
Septic,
Do I want your "honest analysis"? I love that qualifier. It reminds me of some of the poor, innocent criminals who, when asked a question start with, "Honestly?"; or "Do you want an honest answer?"
No Septic, lie to me!
If you can be honest Septic, please give me your "honest analysis".
Do you guys really have to wonder why folks like Dr. Barland don't post on this site anymore? Do you think "idiots" like me drove him away? How about the possibility he either found your constant harping to be rather dull, boring, and not at all stimulating; or maybe he simply realized that there is no debating zealots. The only thing you can do with zealots is either ignore them, or let the "idiots" deal with them.
Well..........HERE'S BATMAN!!!
The fact that you goofballs keep responding to folks like myself and Torpedo does not speak well for your individual or combined intellects. Maybe, just maybe your the anti-polygraph idiots. George simply puts you out there on the front line to take all the shots. The difference between you idiots and this idiot is that I know and understand my role in this little game; however you guys really think you're out there accomplishing something. You are George's version of cannon fodder.
Ain't that right George? Maybe you can get these idiots out there on your poster campaign?
Batman
You can't waste what you don't have.
How's your life going anyway, post-polygraph? Really, I want to know, I care.
Septic,
Do I want your "honest analysis"? I love that qualifier. It reminds me of some of the poor, innocent criminals who, when asked a question start with, "Honestly?"; or "Do you want an honest answer?"
No Septic, lie to me!
If you can be honest Septic, please give me your "honest analysis".
Do you guys really have to wonder why folks like Dr. Barland don't post on this site anymore? Do you think "idiots" like me drove him away? How about the possibility he either found your constant harping to be rather dull, boring, and not at all stimulating; or maybe he simply realized that there is no debating zealots. The only thing you can do with zealots is either ignore them, or let the "idiots" deal with them.
Well..........HERE'S BATMAN!!!
The fact that you goofballs keep responding to folks like myself and Torpedo does not speak well for your individual or combined intellects. Maybe, just maybe your the anti-polygraph idiots. George simply puts you out there on the front line to take all the shots. The difference between you idiots and this idiot is that I know and understand my role in this little game; however you guys really think you're out there accomplishing something. You are George's version of cannon fodder.
Ain't that right George? Maybe you can get these idiots out there on your poster campaign?
Batman
Posted by Torpedo
- Feb 25, 2003, 12:39 AMYes, pin the tail on the donkey....sorry, I couldn't resist...you set me up for it...I just took the bait
Posted by Skeptic
- Feb 24, 2003, 09:21 PMQuote from: steincj on Feb 24, 2003, 09:07 PM
Batman,
You wouldn't know sarcasm if it hit you over the head with a 2x4. I sometimes wonder if I waste some of my best humor replying to your pathetic posts.
And sometimes I wonder if I waste my intellect on your posts.
Chris,
Your humor and intellect aren't wasted; Batman isn't the only one who reads what you post
As for the Breeze, yeah, I was probably a little too hard on him myself, considering what's left. Of course, we used to have Dr. Barland, J.B. and others stop by for solid debate. It seems that sort of opposition evaporated after the NAS' report.
Skeptic
Hey! 350 posts! Isn't there a pin or something?
Posted by Skeptic
- Feb 24, 2003, 09:20 PMQuote from: Batman on Feb 19, 2003, 04:08 PM
Seeker,
Spank me, PLEASE spank me!!! Batman loves pain, why else would I keep coming back to this site.
Do you want my honest analysis?
Skeptic
Posted by steincj
- Feb 24, 2003, 09:07 PMQuote from: Batman on Feb 19, 2003, 04:08 PM
Steinjc,
I apologize for being so subtle in my last post to you. The last paragraph of that post was intended to be one of my better sarcastic replys. I obviously missed the mark by a mile if you thought it was meant to imply that I gave a rat's ass about how you live your life. I'll let Seeker give you a spanking for your "venomous misinterpretation" of my post.
Seeker, spank him with a 2x4, he likes the pain even more than I do!
Batman
Batman,
You wouldn't know sarcasm if it hit you over the head with a 2x4. I sometimes wonder if I waste some of my best humor replying to your pathetic posts.
And sometimes I wonder if I waste my intellect on your posts.
Basically, Batman, you are a waste. You provide little to the intellectual discussion of the anti pre-employment polygraph debate.
If you would like to redeem yourself, find a polygrapher buddy who has at least half a brain, or skipped the lobotomy day at DoDPI, and get him to post on this site. Then you can sit back and cheer like your little pet Torpedo does.
I miss the days of the intellectual debate on this site, provided by The_Breeze. He knew his job, wasn't a moron, threw in the occasional personal dig, and NEVER needed a crew of lap dogs like you have.
And he knew sarcasm.
Chris
Posted by Seeker
- Feb 19, 2003, 08:18 PMQuote from: beech trees on Feb 19, 2003, 02:50 AMBatman, your attempt to hide this important information provides me great entertainment.
If anyone is interested, an excellent interview given by Larry Pratt (Executive Director of Gun Owners of America) of Tom Fitten concerning the government's continuing failure to combat terrorism may be heard here:
http://www.soundwaves2000.com/rammaker.asp?id=116&d=02-15-03
That link should open up Real Player... if not go to
http://www.soundwaves2000.com/livefire/
and click the link for the 2.15.03 show. While the polygraph (as far as I can tell) does not come up in the interview, there are many tangential points discussed in the interview that have also been raised here.
Dave
Go stand in the corner where you belong until time for you to be made accountable for your actions.
I am fully aware of your dark side of secretively deriving pleasure from pain. I just didn't know that you enjoyed getting it as much as you give it.
The greatest point of the above link comes from the proof of the FBI's mastery of missed opportunities. Fatal Neglect is a very appropriate name for the book.
Regards,
Posted by Batman
- Feb 19, 2003, 04:08 PMSeeker,
Spank me, PLEASE spank me!!! Batman loves pain, why else would I keep coming back to this site.
So my responses were simply a "venomous misinterpretation" of your recent posts? Interesting, but how about putting up or shutting up. You laid out some pretty heavy accusations. It's easy to sit back now and say how I misinterpreted what you wrote, but my dear sweet lady, you wrote it. Just what were you meaning when you wrote,
"It is those agencies who have failed us with their support and belief of witchcraft. I do not see 9/11 as being luck on the part of the terrorists, but rather a horrible show of how unreliable our intelligence agencies are.....The only thing that is pressing and of concern is how many American lives have we forfeited as a result of our continued support of such voodoo practices.....We as American citizens cannot rely on the FBI to do the required investigative work to chase down leads that come in to them. They have opted to institute the polygraph as their charlatan. We can expect nothing less than chance when this method is used."
How about giving a clear interpretation of the above statements, that way I can correct my thinking. Tell you what, rather than spanking me, why not just slap me upside the head with a few facts to support what you have written.
Steinjc,
I apologize for being so subtle in my last post to you. The last paragraph of that post was intended to be one of my better sarcastic replys. I obviously missed the mark by a mile if you thought it was meant to imply that I gave a rat's ass about how you live your life. I'll let Seeker give you a spanking for your "venomous misinterpretation" of my post.
Seeker, spank him with a 2x4, he likes the pain even more than I do!
Batman
Spank me, PLEASE spank me!!! Batman loves pain, why else would I keep coming back to this site.
So my responses were simply a "venomous misinterpretation" of your recent posts? Interesting, but how about putting up or shutting up. You laid out some pretty heavy accusations. It's easy to sit back now and say how I misinterpreted what you wrote, but my dear sweet lady, you wrote it. Just what were you meaning when you wrote,
"It is those agencies who have failed us with their support and belief of witchcraft. I do not see 9/11 as being luck on the part of the terrorists, but rather a horrible show of how unreliable our intelligence agencies are.....The only thing that is pressing and of concern is how many American lives have we forfeited as a result of our continued support of such voodoo practices.....We as American citizens cannot rely on the FBI to do the required investigative work to chase down leads that come in to them. They have opted to institute the polygraph as their charlatan. We can expect nothing less than chance when this method is used."
How about giving a clear interpretation of the above statements, that way I can correct my thinking. Tell you what, rather than spanking me, why not just slap me upside the head with a few facts to support what you have written.
Steinjc,
I apologize for being so subtle in my last post to you. The last paragraph of that post was intended to be one of my better sarcastic replys. I obviously missed the mark by a mile if you thought it was meant to imply that I gave a rat's ass about how you live your life. I'll let Seeker give you a spanking for your "venomous misinterpretation" of my post.
Seeker, spank him with a 2x4, he likes the pain even more than I do!
Batman
Posted by Seeker
- Feb 19, 2003, 04:09 AMBeech Trees:
Thank you for that informative link. I found it to be of such importance that I will refrain from spanking Batman for his venomous misinterpretation of my recent posts for a few days to allow the readers on this site to see this in the top ten.
Regards,
Thank you for that informative link. I found it to be of such importance that I will refrain from spanking Batman for his venomous misinterpretation of my recent posts for a few days to allow the readers on this site to see this in the top ten.
Regards,
Quote from: beech trees on Feb 19, 2003, 02:50 AM
If anyone is interested, an excellent interview given by Larry Pratt (Executive Director of Gun Owners of America) of Tom Fitten concerning the government's continuing failure to combat terrorism may be heard here:
http://www.soundwaves2000.com/rammaker.asp?id=116&d=02-15-03
That link should open up Real Player... if not go to
http://www.soundwaves2000.com/livefire/
and click the link for the 2.15.03 show. While the polygraph (as far as I can tell) does not come up in the interview, there are many tangential points discussed in the interview that have also been raised here.
Dave
Posted by beech trees
- Feb 19, 2003, 02:50 AMIf anyone is interested, an excellent interview given by Larry Pratt (Executive Director of Gun Owners of America) of Tom Fitten concerning the government's continuing failure to combat terrorism may be heard here:
http://www.soundwaves2000.com/rammaker.asp?id=116&d=02-15-03
That link should open up Real Player... if not go to
http://www.soundwaves2000.com/livefire/
and click the link for the 2.15.03 show. While the polygraph (as far as I can tell) does not come up in the interview, there are many tangential points discussed in the interview that have also been raised here.
Dave
http://www.soundwaves2000.com/rammaker.asp?id=116&d=02-15-03
That link should open up Real Player... if not go to
http://www.soundwaves2000.com/livefire/
and click the link for the 2.15.03 show. While the polygraph (as far as I can tell) does not come up in the interview, there are many tangential points discussed in the interview that have also been raised here.
Dave
Posted by steincj
- Feb 18, 2003, 08:16 PMQuote from: Batman on Feb 18, 2003, 05:47 PM
Robin (aka Steincj),
Holy hallucinations, Batman! Do you think I would EVER want anything to do with you? Where do you get off thinking I would want to be YOUR sidekick?
I know your attempt at a Justice League (Batman, Torpedo aka Green Lantern) is seriously lacking the power of intellect, and that you may need someone like me on your team. Just because we agree on an ethical issue about compilot34 DOES NOT mean that I agree with anything else you preach on this site. Hell, I felt so dirty after having to agree with you, I was showering in the fetal position for hours.
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I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on how we interpret Seekers postings.
You and I disagreeing, Batman, say it ain't so!
Here's something for you, why don't we let Seeker interperet her postings for us, and if she lays ALL the blame for 9/11 on the polygraph, I'll apologize to you for ever claiming you misquoted her --- God I hope I'm right, because I don't know if I have enough hot water for the shower I'll need after that apology . . . .
QuoteThank you, Tony Robbins, for that wonderfully inspiring speeech.
However when you state, "Falsely be failed on a polygraph, have your life stripped, and see if you can live in this world without being "jaded.", I get a little concerned for you. Was you life really stripped? Do you still have your family, loved ones, close friends? I've got to believe you do, and in the long run those are what are really important. Don't give something like polygraph the power over you that you have. You can be in control, you still have a life. Live it, get off this site and get out there and live it to the fullest! There is life after a failed polygraph, I think. I passed all four of mine so far so I'm only speculating on that last thought.
I suppose now you will lay your hand upon my forehead, and the demons within me will rise up!!!! They will leave this tortured soul, and he will be free!!!! Free!!!!
I know most of you polygraphers think you are shrinks, but you know something, you ought to stick to what you know. When I want advice on how to live my life, I'll ask somone with better credentials than the DoDPI, ok?
You said yourself you don't know what it is like to fail a polygraph. If you knew, you might fail a couple less people than you probably do right now.
Chris