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Posted by George W. Maschke
 - Jun 06, 2001, 01:20 AM

Quote from: Nate on Jun 04, 2001, 05:19 PM
Just wanted to know why people don't post on this pro-polygraph site and also vice versa?  I post both places all the time yet never see anyone from this site.  I get them pissed at me a lot.  This is just a question that I have always wondered and maybe you guys have posted before and the war is over.  Just curious.

Nate,

When I registered with the PolygraphPlace.com message board last year, Ralph Hilliard, who operates the site, promptly deleted my posts and my account.

Those who visit PolygraphPlace.com's message board should be aware that it is a censored forum (unlike AntiPolygraph.org, where all points of view are welcome).
Posted by G Scalabr
 - Jun 05, 2001, 01:34 AM
QuoteIn fact, several individuals who routinely post on this site did formerly post on the www.polygraphplace.com site only to have their posts/threads removed when the polygraph community found itself badly losing various debated topics.  

Nate, "Anonymous" is correct here.  A number of individuals attempted to respectfully represent the anti-polygraph point of view on the Polygraphplace.com message board, only to have their posts deleted.

The following link describes the experiences of the "Shropshire Lad," who had his posts on Polygraphplace.com deleted.  I just transferred it over from www.nopolygraph.com, which is merging into AntiPolygraph.org in the next few weeks.

http://www.antipolygraph.org/shrop_chron.shtml

To be honest, I have a hard time understanding why they have  "Accuracy/Validity:  How accurate is the polygraph?" board their forum. It seems kind of pointless to have this discussion when without those who respectfully argue that the polygraph is not accurate/valid.  In my opinion, truly productive discussion cannot happen unless all sides of an issue are represented.  Unfortunately, it appears that those at Polygraph Place do not feel the same.

Also, you may wish to check out my
Response to Elmer Criswell of PolygraphPlace.com

I wrote this post in response to some things that were being said on the PolygraphPlace.com discussion about an un-named "anti-polygraph site" (which appears to be AntiPolygraph.org).  As I said in the opening of the post, I chose to respond on our bulletin board because of the censorship at PolygraphPlace.com and the owner of that site's request that "all posts on the site must be grounded in the idea that 'the polygraph has its rightful place in the community.'"   Since I do not feel that the polygraph has a rightful place anywhere besides a museum, none of my posts could possibly be grounded in this assertion.  

Regrettably, only two polygraphers (Gordon Barland and Ray Lattimer) regularly post to this message board. In my response to Elmer Criswell, I encouraged the polygraphers at Polygraph Place to post to our site, and gave my assurance that their posts would not be deleted.  So far, it appears that none of them have chosen to take me up on this offer.

Posted by Nate
 - Jun 04, 2001, 08:59 PM
I figured that was the case.  I could easily quote many things from this site but refuse to because it go no where and more than likely just end up getting deleted as you stated.
Posted by Anonymous
 - Jun 04, 2001, 07:05 PM
Nate,

Regarding your post:

"Just wanted to know why people don't post on this pro-polygraph site and also vice versa?  I post both places all the time yet never see anyone from this site.  I get them pissed at me a lot.  This is just a question that I have always wondered and maybe you guys have posted before and the war is over.  Just curious."

You ask about two groups of individuals: those who routinely post on this site and those who routinely post on a pro-polygraph site, e.g., www.polygraphplace.com, one that you routinely post on.  You ask why individuals from these two communities do not post on one another's sites.  In fact, several individuals who routinely post on this site did formerly post on the www.polygraphplace.com site only to have their posts/threads removed when the polygraph community found itself badly losing various debated topics.  Although anyone is free (and, in fact, encouraged) to post on this site, I suspect that the lack of interest in pro-polygraph individuals doing so is, again, simply a reflection of their distaste for truly examining issues through open debate.  I am afraid, my young friend, that although perhaps respected in some sense by those whose pro-polygraph sites you post on, you are not yet of sufficient knowledge, experience and background so as to be viewed as a threat by them.  When you do obtain that stature and level of recognition, expect to have your posts deleted as well....
Posted by Nate
 - Jun 04, 2001, 05:19 PM
Just wanted to know why people don't post on this pro-polygraph site and also vice versa?  I post both places all the time yet never see anyone from this site.  I get them pissed at me a lot.  This is just a question that I have always wondered and maybe you guys have posted before and the war is over.  Just curious.