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Posted by Seeker
- Oct 20, 2002, 07:56 AMAhh...that was something that I had given consideration to the past few hours.
I have spent several hours gathering research and legitimate information to include in such a draft.
Again, I find your suggestions to be so well thought out.
Thanks!!
I have spent several hours gathering research and legitimate information to include in such a draft.
Again, I find your suggestions to be so well thought out.
Thanks!!
Posted by George W. Maschke
- Oct 20, 2002, 07:53 AMSeeker,
You might consider drafting a letter to the FBI explaining in detail your reasons for refusing to be polygraphed. Such a letter would help protect you against the risk of your reasons being (intentionally or unintentionally) mischaracterized and would provide you with substantial proof of exactly what you told the FBI regarding your unwillingness to be polygraphed should you ever need such proof in any legal context.
You might consider drafting a letter to the FBI explaining in detail your reasons for refusing to be polygraphed. Such a letter would help protect you against the risk of your reasons being (intentionally or unintentionally) mischaracterized and would provide you with substantial proof of exactly what you told the FBI regarding your unwillingness to be polygraphed should you ever need such proof in any legal context.
Posted by Seeker
- Oct 19, 2002, 07:30 AMI will advise the Bureau boys that I will not be consenting to the test per your advise, which I find to be logical and based on incredible research.
Thanks!
I will let you know what happens.
Thanks!
I will let you know what happens.
Posted by George W. Maschke
- Oct 19, 2002, 07:26 AMSeeker,
I strongly recommend that you adamantly refuse to submit to any polygraph interrogation. I think your lawyer's advice that you agree to submit to this nonsense is ill-conceived.
You have little to gain by submitting to a polygraph interrogation but much to lose: if you "fail" a record of that will be entered into your FBI HQ file and you will have officially been branded as a liar by the U.S. Government.
By the way, Bureau polygraphers are no better than others. It's the same voodoo, different witch doctors.
In explaining your refusal to be polygraphed to your handlers, you can refer them to AntiPolygraph.org and to The Lie Behind the Lie Detector. You can also refer them to the newly released National Academy of Sciences' report, The Polygraph and Lie Detection. In the words of Stephen E. Fienberg, who chaired the NAS polygraph panel, "National security is too important to be left to such a blunt instrument."
I strongly recommend that you adamantly refuse to submit to any polygraph interrogation. I think your lawyer's advice that you agree to submit to this nonsense is ill-conceived.
You have little to gain by submitting to a polygraph interrogation but much to lose: if you "fail" a record of that will be entered into your FBI HQ file and you will have officially been branded as a liar by the U.S. Government.
By the way, Bureau polygraphers are no better than others. It's the same voodoo, different witch doctors.
In explaining your refusal to be polygraphed to your handlers, you can refer them to AntiPolygraph.org and to The Lie Behind the Lie Detector. You can also refer them to the newly released National Academy of Sciences' report, The Polygraph and Lie Detection. In the words of Stephen E. Fienberg, who chaired the NAS polygraph panel, "National security is too important to be left to such a blunt instrument."
Posted by Seeker (Guest)
- Oct 19, 2002, 07:06 AMI am supposed to submit to a Bureau poly next week. Now that I have read "The Lie Behind the Lie Dectector", I am not so sure. I have take two polygraphs in the past, both of which I failed miserably allthough I told the truth. Or, at least that was what I was told.
My past experiences were with a State agency. I was given the thumbs up by my handlers with this poly from the FBI. I got the stories of how qualified the Bureau polygraphers were, and how easy this would all be.
I don't want to say much about the particulars, but I am an information slut...a snitch. The poly is "supposedly" being requested by the "Powers that Be" and not by my handlers. Either way, I am uncomfortable with the whole test idea. The two that I had taken earlier involved corrupt officers. I was told that I lied, and that I failed. Amazing that within a month after the polygraphs, the cops were fired. In an effort to prove my reliability, I recorded them with wires that had been previously provided to me by the State agency.
My handlers know about the prior polygraphs, and counter with the "Bureau is better" speeches. I am even getting the "It's a matter of National Security" speech from them as well. I have never felt so pressured into doing something in my life!!I don't have a job at risk, nothing really to loose (I am not jammed up and being forced into snitching). I am told that I can end it at any time, and that I can even refuse the poly. I really don't know what to do. My attorney has told me to go ahead and take it for them. He also told me that they think that I am not telling the truth if they are requesting a polygraph. After reading that book, I am certain that I am doomed to fail.
I will keep you posted.
My past experiences were with a State agency. I was given the thumbs up by my handlers with this poly from the FBI. I got the stories of how qualified the Bureau polygraphers were, and how easy this would all be.
I don't want to say much about the particulars, but I am an information slut...a snitch. The poly is "supposedly" being requested by the "Powers that Be" and not by my handlers. Either way, I am uncomfortable with the whole test idea. The two that I had taken earlier involved corrupt officers. I was told that I lied, and that I failed. Amazing that within a month after the polygraphs, the cops were fired. In an effort to prove my reliability, I recorded them with wires that had been previously provided to me by the State agency.
My handlers know about the prior polygraphs, and counter with the "Bureau is better" speeches. I am even getting the "It's a matter of National Security" speech from them as well. I have never felt so pressured into doing something in my life!!I don't have a job at risk, nothing really to loose (I am not jammed up and being forced into snitching). I am told that I can end it at any time, and that I can even refuse the poly. I really don't know what to do. My attorney has told me to go ahead and take it for them. He also told me that they think that I am not telling the truth if they are requesting a polygraph. After reading that book, I am certain that I am doomed to fail.
I will keep you posted.