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Posted by Fair Chance
- Oct 29, 2002, 11:48 PMOnce again Polyman2002,
Your wit is quite astounding. If you can find some intelligent arguement to go with it, you might inspire someone to actually agree with you.
Does your mother know what you do on the Internet at night?
Your wit is quite astounding. If you can find some intelligent arguement to go with it, you might inspire someone to actually agree with you.
Does your mother know what you do on the Internet at night?
Posted by Polyman2002
- Oct 29, 2002, 10:47 PMUnreasonable,
You failed the polygraph because you lied.
You failed the polygraph because you lied.
Posted by Public Servant
- Oct 11, 2002, 12:09 AMOK. I think you're right. I mis-interpreted the first message. It appears Anon was stating he was glad it was not one of the "yahoos".
Thanks for pointing that out.
Anonymous, if George is corrrect, thanks for excluding me from the derogatory category and sorry for jumping to conclusion. After reading Beech Trees' posts elsewhere, I was assuming all posts to me would be personal attacks.
Thanks for pointing that out.
Anonymous, if George is corrrect, thanks for excluding me from the derogatory category and sorry for jumping to conclusion. After reading Beech Trees' posts elsewhere, I was assuming all posts to me would be personal attacks.
Posted by George W. Maschke
- Oct 10, 2002, 04:28 AMPublic Servant,
You wrote in part:
If you re-read Anonymous's post, I think you'll see that he/she meant to exclude you from the population of said "complete yahoos."
You wrote in part:
QuoteWow! I thought I was the most moderate of all the poly proponents on this message board. And now just because I have the courage to chime in I am the most ignorant of all yahoos.
If you re-read Anonymous's post, I think you'll see that he/she meant to exclude you from the population of said "complete yahoos."
Posted by Public Servant
- Oct 10, 2002, 04:10 AMWow! I thought I was the most moderate of all the poly proponents on this message board. And now just because I have the courage to chime in I am the most ignorant of all yahoos.
In all fairness, it's just too hard not to resist pressing Beech Trees' buttons. Hopefully even he knows it's all in good fun.
For some constructive conversation in which I have thrown in my two cents, please go to the thread on the NAS report or any of the threads in which Drew, George, and I have had actual constructive discussions ("Back to the Basics", for example).
In all fairness, it's just too hard not to resist pressing Beech Trees' buttons. Hopefully even he knows it's all in good fun.
For some constructive conversation in which I have thrown in my two cents, please go to the thread on the NAS report or any of the threads in which Drew, George, and I have had actual constructive discussions ("Back to the Basics", for example).
Posted by Anonymous
- Oct 10, 2002, 01:16 AMPublic Servant,
Glad to see you are still with us. I was afraid the NAS report was going to cower all but the complete yahoos of the polygraph world, those too ignorant to comprehend the consequences for themselves and their colleagues stemming from the aforementioned watershed effort and publication. Stick around--we should have fun in the coming days and weeks...
Glad to see you are still with us. I was afraid the NAS report was going to cower all but the complete yahoos of the polygraph world, those too ignorant to comprehend the consequences for themselves and their colleagues stemming from the aforementioned watershed effort and publication. Stick around--we should have fun in the coming days and weeks...
Posted by Public Servant
- Oct 10, 2002, 12:38 AMSaved your life?! Now you're saying someone threatened to kill you if you were DI?!
Perhaps what you meant to say was this site gave you a life.
I have to agree with Poly Cop, you are quite amusing, Beech.
Perhaps what you meant to say was this site gave you a life.
I have to agree with Poly Cop, you are quite amusing, Beech.
Posted by beech trees
- Oct 10, 2002, 12:01 AMQuote from: Watcher, fearing for his job security after the recent NAS report, got off his rear end and on Oct 09, 2002, 11:45 PM
It is because of this site we are able to show people that polygraph does work.
Excuse me? You will need to explain that little gem.
QuoteThey come in with their heads all messed up and we have an open frank discussion about polygraph this web site and other information.
So you get them all straightened out, do you? How does your crowd unring the bell these days?
QuoteOnce they understand they have no problem passing the polygraph.
Ri-i-i-ght. A more likely hypothesis: Once they determine George and Gino were dead-on in describing your totally discredited pseudo-scientific fraud, they allow you to believe that your lying rhetoric has brought them back to a state of fear and trepidation that you need in order to register anything. They use the countermeasures you cannot detect and you pass them.
QuoteIt is your weak arguments and comments like yours that helps debunk this site.
This site saved my life dear fellow. Congratulations on the recent NAS findings,
Dave
Posted by watcher
- Oct 09, 2002, 11:45 PMQuote from: beech trees on Jun 29, 2002, 05:09 PMIt is because of this site we are able to show people that polygraph does work. They come in with their heads all messed up and we have an open frank discussion about polygraph this web site and other information. Once they understand they have no problem passing the polygraph. It is your weak arguments and comments like yours that helps debunk this site.
Wow, so now the party line is that merely reading this site will cause a failure in one's polygraph test.
Perhaps if, after each and every time you visit this site you also visit polygraphplace.com, the effects will be counteracted and you will once more be placed into a blissful state of ignorance about the fraud behind the pseudo-science of polygraphy.
Posted by watcher
- Oct 09, 2002, 11:40 PMQuote from: Scrared straight on Oct 07, 2002, 02:55 AMHow could you cheat on your boyfriend when you were not with him. In your current emotional state you will fail the test. Get a grip and stop cheating on him.
My boyfriend is accusing me of cheating on him and i don't wanna call up jerry springer or anything so i told him the i would take a lie detector test, and i'm really nervous because i have cheated on him once but we weren't together at the time. what should i do to pass!!! Is the trick basically staying calm and not getting nervous, will i pass if i'm not nervous?
HELP!!!!!!!
Posted by Skeptic
- Oct 07, 2002, 03:58 AMQuote from: Scrared straight on Oct 07, 2002, 02:55 AM
My boyfriend is accusing me of cheating on him and i don't wanna call up jerry springer or anything so i told him the i would take a lie detector test, and i'm really nervous because i have cheated on him once but we weren't together at the time. what should i do to pass!!! Is the trick basically staying calm and not getting nervous, will i pass if i'm not nervous?
HELP!!!!!!!
Frankly, I wouldn't take a polygraph on this or any other topic. How you do on the "test" depends on a lot more than whether you're telling the truth.
Yes, you can fail because you're nervous (the polygraph is basically a nervousness/adrenal reaction detector). Obviously, there are many reasons why you might react nervously to a given question. Guilt is only one.
If you want to know more about the polygraph, I would suggest you download "The Lie Behind the Lie Detector", linked to from the www.antipolygraph.org's main page. You might also want to show it to your boyfriend.
It's up to you, of course, whether you want to admit to your "cheating" (the way you describe it, I guess I wouldn't call it that).
Skeptic
Posted by Scrared straight
- Oct 07, 2002, 02:55 AMMy boyfriend is accusing me of cheating on him and i don't wanna call up jerry springer or anything so i told him the i would take a lie detector test, and i'm really nervous because i have cheated on him once but we weren't together at the time. what should i do to pass!!! Is the trick basically staying calm and not getting nervous, will i pass if i'm not nervous?
HELP!!!!!!!
HELP!!!!!!!
Posted by polycop
- Jul 01, 2002, 02:18 PMQuote from: beech trees on Jun 29, 2002, 05:09 PM
Wow, so now the party line is that merely reading this site will cause a failure in one's polygraph test.
Perhaps if, after each and every time you visit this site you also visit polygraphplace.com, the effects will be counteracted and you will once more be placed into a blissful state of ignorance about the fraud behind the pseudo-science of polygraphy.
Now THAT is funny...
Beechtrees, I never knew you had such a sense of humor...
Polycop
Posted by beech trees
- Jun 29, 2002, 05:09 PMWow, so now the party line is that merely reading this site will cause a failure in one's polygraph test.
Perhaps if, after each and every time you visit this site you also visit polygraphplace.com, the effects will be counteracted and you will once more be placed into a blissful state of ignorance about the fraud behind the pseudo-science of polygraphy.
Perhaps if, after each and every time you visit this site you also visit polygraphplace.com, the effects will be counteracted and you will once more be placed into a blissful state of ignorance about the fraud behind the pseudo-science of polygraphy.
Posted by Drew Richardson
- Jun 28, 2002, 04:28 PMUnbelievable,
You are only partially correct. An otherwise naive and not terribly bright examinee might not recognize the difference between control and relevant questions, and thereby be the beneficiary of a random successful result under the guise of ignorance is bliss. A reasonably intelligent examinee or one made artificially knowledgeable would be at a disadvantage if all he could do was recognize the difference between relevant and control questions and uncontrollably react to the consequences of relevant question issues.
But the good news is that that is not the end of the game. It is not enough to know, but then one must do and act (learn and utilize effective countermeasures). If one takes the final step, then one can successfully complete a polygraph examination. Besides, by the time one reads a warning such as yours on this site, he is already knowledgeable about the difference between control and relevant questions and the various deceptions involved in the exam. When one is half way across the stream, one might as well go to the desired shore (goal), rather than retreating to the less desirable starting point/shore. The latter is really not a possibility in this situation anyway—it would require that one lose one's knowledge and understanding about the workings and nature of a polygraph exam.
You are only partially correct. An otherwise naive and not terribly bright examinee might not recognize the difference between control and relevant questions, and thereby be the beneficiary of a random successful result under the guise of ignorance is bliss. A reasonably intelligent examinee or one made artificially knowledgeable would be at a disadvantage if all he could do was recognize the difference between relevant and control questions and uncontrollably react to the consequences of relevant question issues.
But the good news is that that is not the end of the game. It is not enough to know, but then one must do and act (learn and utilize effective countermeasures). If one takes the final step, then one can successfully complete a polygraph examination. Besides, by the time one reads a warning such as yours on this site, he is already knowledgeable about the difference between control and relevant questions and the various deceptions involved in the exam. When one is half way across the stream, one might as well go to the desired shore (goal), rather than retreating to the less desirable starting point/shore. The latter is really not a possibility in this situation anyway—it would require that one lose one's knowledge and understanding about the workings and nature of a polygraph exam.