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Posted by quickfix
- Apr 17, 2024, 03:09 PMLooks like John M. has crashed and burned per attached decision.
Posted by George W. Maschke
- Jan 26, 2024, 02:00 PMI believe that I did see this on YouTube (not live, but shortly after the fact).
Where Lindy Kyzer states that "the polygraph alone cannot be used to deny or revoke your security clearance," I wouldn't say she was lying. That is, I don't assume that she was deliberately trying to deceive her audience. I don't think she was. But she is certainly mistaken.
At the pre-employment stage, failing a polygraph will in fact result in denial of both a security clearance and employment. And for those who are already employed, failing a polygraph can in fact result in the clearance being revoked (although by regulation it's not supposed to). This happened to former DIA employee John M., who has shared his Kafkaesque experience here in the message thread, "DIA's Insider Threat Program."
Where Lindy Kyzer states that "the polygraph alone cannot be used to deny or revoke your security clearance," I wouldn't say she was lying. That is, I don't assume that she was deliberately trying to deceive her audience. I don't think she was. But she is certainly mistaken.
At the pre-employment stage, failing a polygraph will in fact result in denial of both a security clearance and employment. And for those who are already employed, failing a polygraph can in fact result in the clearance being revoked (although by regulation it's not supposed to). This happened to former DIA employee John M., who has shared his Kafkaesque experience here in the message thread, "DIA's Insider Threat Program."
Posted by clearance denied
- Jan 26, 2024, 11:16 AMDid anyone see this? Last year, the ClearanceJobs.com folks did a live stream where they went over the clearance process and even mention the polygraph.
At the 24-minute and 16-second mark (which I have time-stamped in the link below) they mention that "the polygraph alone cannot be used to deny or revoke a security clearance." THIS IS A LIE. They also say that the "polygraph is really good at getting people to disclose information that wasn't previously disclosed."
Seconds later, the lady adds that an applicant's "over-honesty" will be an issue if the applicant is disclosing information that he or she had not disclosed before.
There it is. More proof the polygraph is just for confession. Everyone keep your mouth shut and don't tell the polygraphers anything! Keep your crimes to yourself. lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KnRprrDBmU&t=1456s
At the 24-minute and 16-second mark (which I have time-stamped in the link below) they mention that "the polygraph alone cannot be used to deny or revoke a security clearance." THIS IS A LIE. They also say that the "polygraph is really good at getting people to disclose information that wasn't previously disclosed."
Seconds later, the lady adds that an applicant's "over-honesty" will be an issue if the applicant is disclosing information that he or she had not disclosed before.
There it is. More proof the polygraph is just for confession. Everyone keep your mouth shut and don't tell the polygraphers anything! Keep your crimes to yourself. lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KnRprrDBmU&t=1456s