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Posted by orolan
- Jun 04, 2003, 12:44 PMSkeptic,
Scary thought, isn't it? As for Washed-up, I'm inclined to believe that he/she/it and "Amused" are one and the same. The type and tone of their mindless drivel are quite similar.
Scary thought, isn't it? As for Washed-up, I'm inclined to believe that he/she/it and "Amused" are one and the same. The type and tone of their mindless drivel are quite similar.
Posted by Skeptic
- Jun 04, 2003, 12:31 AMQuote from: orolan on Jun 03, 2003, 07:47 PMWashed-up Fed,
Is that the new "official" position of the Federal Government? Now guys suspected of cheating on their wives are to be considered "perverts"?
Now that's a scary thought, Orolan
From what I've heard, our government would then be peopled largely by perverts.Skeptic
Posted by Skeptic
- Jun 04, 2003, 12:28 AMQuote from: orolan on Jun 03, 2003, 09:27 PMFed-up Fed,
You seem to chime in quite often yourself around the board. So what's your excuse?
Don't worry about it, Orolan. The day Fed-Up Fed actually contributes something besides insults to this board (a pity, that -- it would be so easy for him to do so) will be the day the Earth stands still.
He ain't worth it -- and I suspect he knows it.
Skeptic
Posted by orolan
- Jun 03, 2003, 09:27 PMFed-up Fed,
You seem to chime in quite often yourself around the board. So what's your excuse?
You seem to chime in quite often yourself around the board. So what's your excuse?
Posted by Fed-up Fed
- Jun 03, 2003, 07:49 PMI figured orolan the moron would be one of the first to chime in even though you weren't even mentioned or asked.
Posted by orolan
- Jun 03, 2003, 07:47 PMWashed-up Fed,
Is that the new "official" position of the Federal Government? Now guys suspected of cheating on their wives are to be considered "perverts"?
Is that the new "official" position of the Federal Government? Now guys suspected of cheating on their wives are to be considered "perverts"?
Posted by Fed-up Fed
- Jun 03, 2003, 07:33 PMOh my, now we have an expert specializing in pervert tests.
Posted by no_poly
- Jun 03, 2003, 11:47 AMIf any one has any questions or faces a domestic relations polygragh test please IM me and I can provide assistance. I have taken several tests pertaining to this issue and can assist if anyone needs it.
Posted by ken
- Apr 23, 2003, 02:06 PMDear Broken
All I can say is that I was recently in the same position.
It sounds like your quoting my life.
April 9th was the day my world ended. A 10 year relationship was destroyed.
I begged to take a polygraph, just as you did, to finally put the suspicion of my fidelity to rest.
As I was reading all the posts, I began to have all the same reactions that I had when the test finally started. Sweating, rapid breathing, high anxiety. And I'm only reading the posts. It's like reliving it all over again. I told the truth. It didn't matter. I was told after being given the test that I had hit the highest level of deception the test could indicate. That I was lying across the board. So I guess my name wasn't Ken and that the month wasn't April either!
Like most, I only knew what most know about polygraphs. Not much. Like most, again, I should have done some research.
It sort of feels good to know that I'm not alone.
I'm so sorry that I ever believed in this.
Color me "therapy bound".
All I can say is that I was recently in the same position.
It sounds like your quoting my life.
April 9th was the day my world ended. A 10 year relationship was destroyed.
I begged to take a polygraph, just as you did, to finally put the suspicion of my fidelity to rest.
As I was reading all the posts, I began to have all the same reactions that I had when the test finally started. Sweating, rapid breathing, high anxiety. And I'm only reading the posts. It's like reliving it all over again. I told the truth. It didn't matter. I was told after being given the test that I had hit the highest level of deception the test could indicate. That I was lying across the board. So I guess my name wasn't Ken and that the month wasn't April either!
Like most, I only knew what most know about polygraphs. Not much. Like most, again, I should have done some research.
It sort of feels good to know that I'm not alone.
I'm so sorry that I ever believed in this.
Color me "therapy bound".
Posted by triple x
- Mar 25, 2003, 01:05 AMBroken,
I'm sorry to hear about your separation from your husband. However, it's strictly my opinion that there is more to your husband's insecurity than the failed results of your polygraph exam. It sounds to me as though he is very insecure with himself. Regardless of the outcome of your polygraph exam, he more than likely would have still maintained the same personal convictions with respect to your relationship situation.
What I'm trying to say here, is that even had you passed the polygraph exam, your husband probably would have then blamed the polygraph's unreliability and vulnerabilities.
Granted, he may be correct in saying that you can find anything on the Internet to support any claim. I must agree. After all, if so inclined, one could find nearly anything on the Internet to support most any claim...
[You wrote]
The overwhelming majority of people have long believed for many years that polygraph testing is irrefutable and undeniably accurate. However, as there are pro-polygraph supporters, there are also anti-polygraph supporters. I personally do not believe in the accuracy of polygraph testing. I [in my own personal opinion] feel that polygraph testing is flawed, unreliable and susceptible to countermeasures. I base my belief in a methodology of testing [polygraphy] that strongly relies on trickery and deceit to mislead the test subject(s) in order to make the test more reliable. "yea right"...
I personally feel that your husband probably has "his own agenda" in which he is obviously not sharing with you, to warrant his desire of separation from you.
Please don't take anything I have said the wrong way. I sincerely believe there is something else behind your husband's actions. Perhaps the true motivation prompting your husband to act in such a manner will soon be made clear to you.
In closing, do not beat yourself up too bad over your failed polygraph results. Based on your own version of events, your husband wrote the polygrapher a check prior to the polygraph exam, and then at the conclusion of the polygraph exam, "tipped" the polygrapher another $50.00 cash. At best, this seems highly unethical to me. One could easily interpret your husband's method of payment, as an attempt to "influence" the polygrapher to support his predisposed personal belief. Although, keep in mind this is strictly my personal opinion... There will be some on this board that will no doubt dispute my position and opinion. Unlike some, I respect other peoples opinion.
Good luck, and I hope things work out for you. Keep the faith.
Respectfully,
Triple x
I'm sorry to hear about your separation from your husband. However, it's strictly my opinion that there is more to your husband's insecurity than the failed results of your polygraph exam. It sounds to me as though he is very insecure with himself. Regardless of the outcome of your polygraph exam, he more than likely would have still maintained the same personal convictions with respect to your relationship situation.
What I'm trying to say here, is that even had you passed the polygraph exam, your husband probably would have then blamed the polygraph's unreliability and vulnerabilities.
Granted, he may be correct in saying that you can find anything on the Internet to support any claim. I must agree. After all, if so inclined, one could find nearly anything on the Internet to support most any claim...
[You wrote]
QuoteI don't understand why society in general considers the polygraph reliable and true.
The overwhelming majority of people have long believed for many years that polygraph testing is irrefutable and undeniably accurate. However, as there are pro-polygraph supporters, there are also anti-polygraph supporters. I personally do not believe in the accuracy of polygraph testing. I [in my own personal opinion] feel that polygraph testing is flawed, unreliable and susceptible to countermeasures. I base my belief in a methodology of testing [polygraphy] that strongly relies on trickery and deceit to mislead the test subject(s) in order to make the test more reliable. "yea right"...
I personally feel that your husband probably has "his own agenda" in which he is obviously not sharing with you, to warrant his desire of separation from you.
Please don't take anything I have said the wrong way. I sincerely believe there is something else behind your husband's actions. Perhaps the true motivation prompting your husband to act in such a manner will soon be made clear to you.
In closing, do not beat yourself up too bad over your failed polygraph results. Based on your own version of events, your husband wrote the polygrapher a check prior to the polygraph exam, and then at the conclusion of the polygraph exam, "tipped" the polygrapher another $50.00 cash. At best, this seems highly unethical to me. One could easily interpret your husband's method of payment, as an attempt to "influence" the polygrapher to support his predisposed personal belief. Although, keep in mind this is strictly my personal opinion... There will be some on this board that will no doubt dispute my position and opinion. Unlike some, I respect other peoples opinion.
Good luck, and I hope things work out for you. Keep the faith.
Respectfully,
Triple x
Posted by Broken
- Mar 23, 2003, 06:45 PMDear Triple x
Since I posted that first message in August, I have since separated from my husband. He refuses to believe that the polygraph was wrong and in fact, he is basing our whole relationship and whole life around it. I e-mailed him a copy of TLBTLD, but it did not help. He says you can find anything on the internet to support any opinion you hold. At this point, short of earth-shattering front page news that totally discredits polygraphs, his mind is made up. I don't understand why society in general considers the polygraph reliable and true. I used to be like that. After all, I am the one that begged for the "test". Whenever I heard in the news about suspects failing polygraphs, I was willing to think that the book should be thrown at them. Now, after a little research and a little reading, I realize that I should have known better. Oh, well, live and learn, I guess.
Thanks for your reply.
Broken
Since I posted that first message in August, I have since separated from my husband. He refuses to believe that the polygraph was wrong and in fact, he is basing our whole relationship and whole life around it. I e-mailed him a copy of TLBTLD, but it did not help. He says you can find anything on the internet to support any opinion you hold. At this point, short of earth-shattering front page news that totally discredits polygraphs, his mind is made up. I don't understand why society in general considers the polygraph reliable and true. I used to be like that. After all, I am the one that begged for the "test". Whenever I heard in the news about suspects failing polygraphs, I was willing to think that the book should be thrown at them. Now, after a little research and a little reading, I realize that I should have known better. Oh, well, live and learn, I guess.
Thanks for your reply.
Broken
Posted by triple x
- Mar 23, 2003, 12:07 AMBroken,
I'm sorry to hear such a sad personal story involving infidelity and polygraphy. Being suspected of infidelity when you are innocent of such allegations is an awful situation.
You wrote:
<and>
If it's any consolation, rest assured that your husband paid for nothing more than the equivalent of a "Tarot card" or "palm" reading. He could have simply saved himself the money and flipped a coin. The coin-toss result would have been just as accurate as the polygraph exam.
In addition, I suggest that you download and read [for free of charge] "TLBTLD" available on this website. You may also want to provide a copy of "TLBTLD" to your husband, to help him better understand the trickery and deceit involved with polygraph testing.
I wish you the best with respect to your marital situation. I sincerely hope things work out for you.
Good luck.
Respectfully,
Triple x
I'm sorry to hear such a sad personal story involving infidelity and polygraphy. Being suspected of infidelity when you are innocent of such allegations is an awful situation.
You wrote:
QuoteFirst he told my husband to write him a check and leave.
<and>
QuoteBefore I left, I watched as my husband slipped him a $50 bill as we were leaving.
If it's any consolation, rest assured that your husband paid for nothing more than the equivalent of a "Tarot card" or "palm" reading. He could have simply saved himself the money and flipped a coin. The coin-toss result would have been just as accurate as the polygraph exam.
In addition, I suggest that you download and read [for free of charge] "TLBTLD" available on this website. You may also want to provide a copy of "TLBTLD" to your husband, to help him better understand the trickery and deceit involved with polygraph testing.
I wish you the best with respect to your marital situation. I sincerely hope things work out for you.
Good luck.
Respectfully,
Triple x
Posted by Boston Blackie
- Mar 21, 2003, 10:03 PM Oh my goodness! I am simply devastated. Did I say something wrong or offensive? Mr. Orolan please don't be angry. I didn't mean any harm, I was simply commenting on Mr.TwoBlocks inovative solution. Please don't sic TwoBlock on me. I promise I will get a life, I learned my lesson.BB(iterpret this as Boston Blackie or baffled & bewildered)
Posted by orolan
- Mar 21, 2003, 08:29 PMBetter yet, Boston Blackie, perhaps George and Twoblock should collaborate on a book called "How to Get a Life". And you could be their first customer.
BB ( Interpret it as Baked Beans or Blue Balls)
BB ( Interpret it as Baked Beans or Blue Balls)
Posted by Boston Blackie
- Mar 21, 2003, 12:36 PM
WOW!! what great idea twoblock has. Perhaps he could write a book and explain exactly how to "bitch slap". He could model it after the BLT or whatever George calls his book.I am sure that George will help him. He could then write a sequel on how to "beat" the charges. Before you know it he will be an expert in "bitch slapping" and have his own web site. Wish I had thought of it.
BB ( Interpret it as Boston Blackie or Ball Buster)