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Posted by Joe McCarthy
- Sep 18, 2017, 03:08 PMdid i miss something?
Posted by girl2
- Aug 03, 2017, 12:23 PM"THEY WILL NOT poly exam a pregnant woman as "it can be stressful", as they put it and if it would even remotely stressfully affect the pregnant subject, as they know it would, then THEY would be held liable if any complication occurred."
just so you know. i am 30 and 27 weeks pregnant and i have 10 years probation and i have had to take a poly 4 times in the last year... in Arizona they absolutely WILL polygraph you pregnant. they dont care. oh and i keep failing telling the truth. ironically the only time i passed was when i made up something to "admit" to them and they were satisfied.
just so you know. i am 30 and 27 weeks pregnant and i have 10 years probation and i have had to take a poly 4 times in the last year... in Arizona they absolutely WILL polygraph you pregnant. they dont care. oh and i keep failing telling the truth. ironically the only time i passed was when i made up something to "admit" to them and they were satisfied.
Posted by Joe McCarthy
- Jan 24, 2017, 10:04 AMQuote from: Arkhangelsk on Jan 17, 2017, 11:35 PMThis is the personality type that is administering PCSOT exams in Texas?
I am honestly getting to a point, where I believe that PCSOT testing in Texas should be suspended until it is properly and fully licensed and regulated by the TDLR, and under the total control of the TDLR.
With the past behaviors of the Texas polygraph establishment, it has become clear that that all licensing and regulation powers should be taken out of the hands of any entity that is not TDLR.
Posted by Joe McCarthy
- Jan 23, 2017, 08:27 PMOk, lets get addressing the rest of this crap out of the way.
The more I look at this and reflect on it, the more I recognize what it is I think they are trying to achieve. Up until now, my fight has been one of the truth, and documentation. Despite predictions on PP that I was going to, "snap," or have a, "falling down moment," I have always strayed away from violence and acting out in any physical manner. I know this disappointed many, and others were impressed that I didn't.
Now having said this, every time a stunt like this is pulled, I firmly believe that I'm being trolled into violence; and that is their end game. I think this is a reasonable conclusion, based on the postings from PP, and that the postings from these anonymous posters, seem to be increasingly taunting and trollish.
The reason their attacks get worse and worse, is because they want to keep pushing buttons, until they achieve the desired result. Personally, I think this is both a dangerous and a stupid game.
It's stupid because, if I haven't done it yet, clearly, I'm not going to. All they are doing is showing what a bunch of moronic jackasses they are; and they are showing their desperation.
It's a dangerous tactic, because it's all fun and games, until the bullied finally does give the desired response. When the bully achieves the desired response, it never ends well for anyone. You never know what a person in that state of mind will do, or how they will target. You see this all the time on TV for those people who do snap. It never ends well, and usually, it's the most innocent who get hurt the most. This just shows how irresponsible these people are.
In any case, it has become clear to me that a violent end to this feud is their end game. I have spoken with others, and they agree with my assessment of this situation. Well, the violent end they seek will only materialize, if or when, they are dumb enough to bring it themselves. I haven't and I will not lower myself to a level they expect of me.
So I really wish they would move on from this tactic. It hasn't worked up to now, clearly it won't work. MOVE ON!
It's become clear, that they are examiners who are very desperate. I have my theories, but that is for another post.
I will say this.
Over the years of my wife watching my struggle up close and personal, she has become very anti polygraph, and anti polygraph industry. I have asked her to keep her opinions in the home, because this is how I make a living. Crap like this makes it very hard for me to ask her to remain respectful to how I make a living, and not do anyting that would put the industry in a bad place.
Now that someone has been stupid enough to involve her, in a very personal way, I cannot, in good faith, ask her to tolerate personal attacks and not retaliate. It is important to note, she has been though polygraph school and is very aware of what she calls, flawed studies. In short, she is not someone in which you people want to start a personal war. I would be on the phone with her very quickly with assurances, that the personal attacks on her, at least will be addressed, and dealt with accordingly; Just a suggestion. Trust me, you people don't want her involved on a personal level. She will make, Von Behren, and Dansby, look like a morning without coffee.
I am done asking her to leave it alone. If I were certain examiner in the industry, I would talk her down before GM gets smart and gets her on the phone. Because Karen can do way more damage than Dan or me put together. I'm done talking her down, and I am done defending this industry to her.
Good luck
The more I look at this and reflect on it, the more I recognize what it is I think they are trying to achieve. Up until now, my fight has been one of the truth, and documentation. Despite predictions on PP that I was going to, "snap," or have a, "falling down moment," I have always strayed away from violence and acting out in any physical manner. I know this disappointed many, and others were impressed that I didn't.
Now having said this, every time a stunt like this is pulled, I firmly believe that I'm being trolled into violence; and that is their end game. I think this is a reasonable conclusion, based on the postings from PP, and that the postings from these anonymous posters, seem to be increasingly taunting and trollish.
The reason their attacks get worse and worse, is because they want to keep pushing buttons, until they achieve the desired result. Personally, I think this is both a dangerous and a stupid game.
It's stupid because, if I haven't done it yet, clearly, I'm not going to. All they are doing is showing what a bunch of moronic jackasses they are; and they are showing their desperation.
It's a dangerous tactic, because it's all fun and games, until the bullied finally does give the desired response. When the bully achieves the desired response, it never ends well for anyone. You never know what a person in that state of mind will do, or how they will target. You see this all the time on TV for those people who do snap. It never ends well, and usually, it's the most innocent who get hurt the most. This just shows how irresponsible these people are.
In any case, it has become clear to me that a violent end to this feud is their end game. I have spoken with others, and they agree with my assessment of this situation. Well, the violent end they seek will only materialize, if or when, they are dumb enough to bring it themselves. I haven't and I will not lower myself to a level they expect of me.
So I really wish they would move on from this tactic. It hasn't worked up to now, clearly it won't work. MOVE ON!
It's become clear, that they are examiners who are very desperate. I have my theories, but that is for another post.
I will say this.
Over the years of my wife watching my struggle up close and personal, she has become very anti polygraph, and anti polygraph industry. I have asked her to keep her opinions in the home, because this is how I make a living. Crap like this makes it very hard for me to ask her to remain respectful to how I make a living, and not do anyting that would put the industry in a bad place.
Now that someone has been stupid enough to involve her, in a very personal way, I cannot, in good faith, ask her to tolerate personal attacks and not retaliate. It is important to note, she has been though polygraph school and is very aware of what she calls, flawed studies. In short, she is not someone in which you people want to start a personal war. I would be on the phone with her very quickly with assurances, that the personal attacks on her, at least will be addressed, and dealt with accordingly; Just a suggestion. Trust me, you people don't want her involved on a personal level. She will make, Von Behren, and Dansby, look like a morning without coffee.
I am done asking her to leave it alone. If I were certain examiner in the industry, I would talk her down before GM gets smart and gets her on the phone. Because Karen can do way more damage than Dan or me put together. I'm done talking her down, and I am done defending this industry to her.
Good luck
Posted by Joe McCarthy
- Jan 21, 2017, 05:38 PMGot home from Vegas yesterday, and just getting to this again now. Looking at it with fresh eyes is till pissing me off royally. As such, I really just want to take a couple more days to cool off.
There are so many things wrong about all this; factually and morally. I will say this though.
The elections were fair, square, and on the level. I know the guys who were counting the votes, and any implication that these men would do anything, other than what is right or honorable, is completely offensive of my sensibilities. Both are good men, and men of unquestionable character in my eyes. I will have no talk about the examiners in question, being anything but good men.
All the candidates involved were, well qualified, and well recommended. I lost the elections to good men, who want to serve the membership of the organization, with honor and pride. I will have words with anyone who says otherwise.
In an election, someone wins and someone loses, this is the nature of an election. No matter who won, they didn't win. No candidate ever wins an election; they win a burden. It's a burden of service they choose to take on. The Voters win an election, especially this year. I say that, because there was not a single bad candidate in my eyes.
The rest of this I will address later, when I have a cooler head.
There are so many things wrong about all this; factually and morally. I will say this though.
The elections were fair, square, and on the level. I know the guys who were counting the votes, and any implication that these men would do anything, other than what is right or honorable, is completely offensive of my sensibilities. Both are good men, and men of unquestionable character in my eyes. I will have no talk about the examiners in question, being anything but good men.
All the candidates involved were, well qualified, and well recommended. I lost the elections to good men, who want to serve the membership of the organization, with honor and pride. I will have words with anyone who says otherwise.
In an election, someone wins and someone loses, this is the nature of an election. No matter who won, they didn't win. No candidate ever wins an election; they win a burden. It's a burden of service they choose to take on. The Voters win an election, especially this year. I say that, because there was not a single bad candidate in my eyes.
The rest of this I will address later, when I have a cooler head.
Posted by Ex Member
- Jan 19, 2017, 12:39 PMQuote from: the_fighting_irish on Jan 19, 2017, 04:56 AMToo far, too far. I think I will take a few days before I address this.
From Wikipedia:
"In criminal and civil law, assault is an attempt to initiate harmful or offensive contact with a person, or a threat to do so. It is distinct from battery, which refers to the actual achievement of such contact."
Posted by Joe McCarthy
- Jan 19, 2017, 04:56 AMToo far, too far. I think I will take a few days before I address this.
Posted by xenonman
- Jan 18, 2017, 05:04 AMQuote133
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Posted by xenonman
- Jan 18, 2017, 05:01 AMQuote from: danmangan on Dec 12, 2016, 03:18 PMMinga!That's minga or mangia? lol
Posted by George W. Maschke
- Jan 18, 2017, 12:26 AMQuote from: Arkhangelsk on Jan 17, 2017, 11:35 PMThis is the personality type that is administering PCSOT exams in Texas?
It appears that such is the case.
Posted by Ex Member
- Jan 17, 2017, 11:35 PMThis is the personality type that is administering PCSOT exams in Texas?
Posted by tastychocolatenuts
- Jan 17, 2017, 09:30 PMCongratulations, Joey
You've become the new Dan Mangan
Learn from Dan
You'll never win any election
Not in any polygraph association
Unlike Dan, you don't learn the first time, do you?
Joey, was a two time loser today everyone
He ran against a sitting Board Member
and got humiliated when he didn't get a single vote
Not one
Then he runs for the second spot
Thank God someone stood up to prevent you from running unopposed
Just to rub salt in the wound, Joey
That's why he ran at the last moment
He didn't really want the spot
Everyone just didn't want you to have the spot
And again, not one vote was for you
No one will let you tinker with things from within
Even if you won
You would've lost
Every vote would've been for anyone else but you
Is it true you cried? I heard you cried.
Irishmen are good at that
That's why you wear dresses
The NPA doesn't want your kind, Joey
The polygraph industry, doesn't want your kind
In Texas we don't want your kind
You'll never find the acceptance you seek
Like a desperate little puppy dog
That's why you belong to an all black lodge
Because there's no normal regular lodge that would ever take you
Three ex wives didn't want you
Your current wife doesn't want you
Where is she, Joey?
Who's car is in your driveway, Joey?
We know
Do you?
Ask her
If you trust your test so much, test her
Tell everyone how it goes, Joey
Have fun crying while you walk down The Strip, Joey
Financially and emotionally broke
Did you bring one of your guns, Joey?
You know what to do with it
The MGM is used to cleaning up insignificant, odd ball, losers
It'll be the only thing you did in life that would make people happy.
You've already been replaced at home, Joey
Just make it easy on her
And everyone else
Make it easy on yourself
Stop the suffering
No one will ever love you
You've become the new Dan Mangan
Learn from Dan
You'll never win any election
Not in any polygraph association
Unlike Dan, you don't learn the first time, do you?
Joey, was a two time loser today everyone
He ran against a sitting Board Member
and got humiliated when he didn't get a single vote
Not one
Then he runs for the second spot
Thank God someone stood up to prevent you from running unopposed
Just to rub salt in the wound, Joey
That's why he ran at the last moment
He didn't really want the spot
Everyone just didn't want you to have the spot
And again, not one vote was for you
No one will let you tinker with things from within
Even if you won
You would've lost
Every vote would've been for anyone else but you
Is it true you cried? I heard you cried.
Irishmen are good at that
That's why you wear dresses
The NPA doesn't want your kind, Joey
The polygraph industry, doesn't want your kind
In Texas we don't want your kind
You'll never find the acceptance you seek
Like a desperate little puppy dog
That's why you belong to an all black lodge
Because there's no normal regular lodge that would ever take you
Three ex wives didn't want you
Your current wife doesn't want you
Where is she, Joey?
Who's car is in your driveway, Joey?
We know
Do you?
Ask her
If you trust your test so much, test her
Tell everyone how it goes, Joey
Have fun crying while you walk down The Strip, Joey
Financially and emotionally broke
Did you bring one of your guns, Joey?
You know what to do with it
The MGM is used to cleaning up insignificant, odd ball, losers
It'll be the only thing you did in life that would make people happy.
You've already been replaced at home, Joey
Just make it easy on her
And everyone else
Make it easy on yourself
Stop the suffering
No one will ever love you
Posted by Joe McCarthy
- Jan 08, 2017, 10:19 PMQuoteHow do I get in contact with you directly? You'll want to look at what I have for you.
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Ugh, Seriously?
Posted by sisster
- Jan 05, 2017, 09:30 PMHow do I get in contact with you directly? You'll want to look at what I have for you.
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Posted by Dan Mangan
- Dec 12, 2016, 03:18 PMQuote from: the_fighting_irish on Dec 12, 2016, 01:05 PM"Capiche,"........ wow........ LMAO. Lace curtain Irish boy trying to act all North End. That is just too funny. Next thing ya know you'll be running down the street when you hear some woman yell "ANTHONY" out her window.
Minga!