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Posted by Ex Member
- Jun 24, 2016, 09:39 PMDo tell. I have a friend who was a probation officer some time ago. He said that he was instructed to form support groups for those convicted of drug crimes. He told me the only outcome was that they all established new connections.
Posted by Dan Mangan
- Jun 24, 2016, 09:08 PMQuote from: Arkhangelsk on Jun 24, 2016, 05:50 PMBut regardless, your best path forward is to work your program and learn to make better choices. Good luck!
Ark, did you know that such SO treatment "programs" also function as workshops to cultivate more savvy, elusive and undetectable sex offenders?
Posted by Ex Member
- Jun 24, 2016, 05:50 PMQuotemy horrible, horrible crime was for seeking an adult, on an adult website, to role play a school girl.In my state you can only be charged if you believed the person was a minor. If fact, you cannot even be charged if it is a minor who pretended to be an adult. I think you may have omitted some key details. But regardless, your best path forward is to work your program and learn to make better choices. Good luck!
Posted by guest
- Jun 24, 2016, 03:34 PMAlso, just as a note, my horrible, horrible crime was for seeking an adult, on an adult website, to role play a school girl. My victim is literally a fantasy. According to my treatment provider, I'm minimizing though, because WHAT IF a real school girl responded to my profile? And I invariably respond with, what if you're a murderer; should we lock you up too? I'm living 1984.
Posted by guest
- Jun 24, 2016, 03:26 PMThe polygraphers in my state, who are I assume as all, trained and licensed by the state sex offender board, are notorious for asking questions that encompass disclosures into the questions to force you to fail. E.g. if I disclosed I had seen sexually explicit images in a certain time frame, say May 8th, they'd still ask "since January 1st, have you seen any sexually explicit images". I will tell them, well, yes, I just disclosed to you I saw some on May 8th. But their response is it doesn't matter, you already disclosed it. So I'm expected to answer no to a question that I'm obviously lying to because I did in fact see those images in that time frame. I've brought it up so many times I can't even count anymore, and every one of them, my PO, treatment provider, and polygrapher tell me I'm hiding something or holding secrets. You litterally can't pass these things here.
Posted by xenonman
- May 17, 2016, 11:21 PMQuoteUSE OF STALKING THROUGH SECURITY COMPANY CROSSING STATE LINES / USE OF MA
Well, Chattanooga is right on the GA state line and isn't too far from AL either!
Posted by xenonman
- May 17, 2016, 11:14 PMQuote from: quickfix on Apr 11, 2016, 02:43 PMMust be that you just forgot to put on your tin foil hat and forgot to break the Prozacs in half!
Guess his application won't get too far in Langley!
Posted by xenonman
- May 17, 2016, 11:11 PMQuote from: Vyvanse32 on Aug 13, 2015, 03:05 PMI also think that if he has the answer already, he shouldn't care what my answer is.Well, I've heard of autoeroticism, but I always thought that it referred to another "forbidden" activity!
With lie detector tests, when I am not hooked up, there is no point in asking me the answer to something you have already made up your mind on.
It is like if a Geographer from the 1700s asked me if the "Earth is flat" and I was like, nah its round and lumpy and he gets mad and says, well "You said it was flat last Tuesday!".
The biggest foible in them is that they don't go past probation. If the court doesn't recognize their veracity, why should I? Heck, I was a law school student who spent 2 years researching if I could take a lie detector test in order to end the case.
If it is no good for innocence, the things are like admissions to officers in an interrogation. They are something to only be used against you.
Posted by xenonman
- May 17, 2016, 10:53 PMQuote from: Vyvanse32 on Aug 13, 2015, 03:05 PMI also think that if he has the answer already, he shouldn't care what my answer is.That is exactly their purpose -- to interrogate a subject/applicant without having to worry about little annoyances like Miranda! 8-)
With lie detector tests, when I am not hooked up, there is no point in asking me the answer to something you have already made up your mind on.
It is like if a Geographer from the 1700s asked me if the "Earth is flat" and I was like, nah its round and lumpy and he gets mad and says, well "You said it was flat last Tuesday!".
The biggest foible in them is that they don't go past probation. If the court doesn't recognize their veracity, why should I? Heck, I was a law school student who spent 2 years researching if I could take a lie detector test in order to end the case.
If it is no good for innocence, the things are like admissions to officers in an interrogation. They are something to only be used against you.
Posted by Joe McCarthy
- May 07, 2016, 10:51 PMI have found many cases, testing behind other examiners, mixing issues, not following time bars, it's amazing the things some people do to keep the favor of a few providers. Because that is what it is in most cases. It's providers and PO's demanding this or that, and rather then the examiner having the balls to say, "no, there are rules and guidelines to follow," they do what they it to please the provider or PO. In Texas, it is not unusual for the PO or the provider to totally run the polygraph room though money. The examiners know what they are doing is wrong, but they don't want the provider to stop using him, in favor of using someone who will.
Moreover, they will never get caught, because no one is checking behind us. No one is checking behind us to make sure we are doing it right. Even if they did, PCOST is not regulated by the government in many states. While basic polygraph is, an examiners can do a test, that does't resemble anything in the "guidelines," in PCSOT and never be held accountable for it because no law was broken. This is why examiner, especially in Texas, love the word "guidelines."
An examiner can run A PCSOT test anyway they want, and the consumer has no recourse, and I would be willing to be, a lot falls though the cracks that should not have, had the test been performed correctly.
Of course, I am only speaking from a Texas standpoint
Moreover, they will never get caught, because no one is checking behind us. No one is checking behind us to make sure we are doing it right. Even if they did, PCOST is not regulated by the government in many states. While basic polygraph is, an examiners can do a test, that does't resemble anything in the "guidelines," in PCSOT and never be held accountable for it because no law was broken. This is why examiner, especially in Texas, love the word "guidelines."
An examiner can run A PCSOT test anyway they want, and the consumer has no recourse, and I would be willing to be, a lot falls though the cracks that should not have, had the test been performed correctly.
Of course, I am only speaking from a Texas standpoint
Posted by Ex Member
- Apr 11, 2016, 03:26 PMQuoteLONG DISTANCE HAILING DEVICEJoshua,
Can you give me some technical details on this device? And, just in case you are unable to:
Behaviors that are early warning signs of schizophrenia include:
-Hearing or seeing something that isn't there
-A constant feeling of being watched
Also:
SAMHSA Treatment Referral Helpline – 1‑877‑SAMHSA7 (1‑877‑726‑4727)
Get general information on mental health and locate treatment services in your area. Speak to a live person, Monday through Friday from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. EST.
Posted by quickfix
- Apr 11, 2016, 02:43 PMMust be that you just forgot to put on your tin foil hat and forgot to break the Prozacs in half!
Posted by Joshua Hurley
- Apr 11, 2016, 03:25 AMAttention - this is a state of emergency !!!!
CHATTANOOGA POLICE OFFICER INVOLVEMENT IN TORTURE THROUGH EEG AND MRI TORTURE AND LONG DISTANCE HAILING DEVICE , THIS AGONIZING DEATH HAS BEEN PROLONGED THROUGH TACTICAL PHONE INTERCEPTION DEVICES THWARTING AID / USE OF STALKING THROUGH SECURITY COMPANY CROSSING STATE LINES / USE OF MAIL TAMPERING TO SUB MAIL ORDER MEDS FOR STEROID AND GROWTH HORMONE ATTACKING WIFE / AFTER DISCOVERY FURTHER ATTACKS USING MICROWAVE ASSAULT ON HER OVARIES WITH EMAILED VINEGAR AND LEMON TONIC SHORTENING HALF LIFE OF ANTI DEPRESSANTS CAUSING EXTREME DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY AND IRRITABILITY --SUDDEN ON SLOUGHT / FURTHER MAGNETIC FIELD FLUX MAY BE PUSHING IUD INTO HER CERVIX CAUSING TRAUMA AND BLEEDING ...I AM BLOCKED FROM SEEKING HELP AS WE ARE ELECTRONICALLY COCOONED WITH 5000 OBSTRUCTION CHARGES WITH POLICE OFFICER GEORGE JACKSON IMPERSONATING OFFICERS OUT OF STATE / Jackson is thought to be guilty of further sexual assault of myself and was filmed after a mock assault and full admission of MRI torture using post conviction offender testing / Jackson is aided and may have sheriff office support / Jackson has used tactics aiding his real estate business Keller Williams and has used sonic devices to destroy one house /
Victim Joshua Hurley Dalton Georgia
Secondary police officer Eddie Chamberlain also threatened me with tactical weapons to "talk me out of my life and wife ' and had grown obsessive and impulsive making sexual remarks pertaining to smelling my wife / he and several other officers are attempting to cover up several assassination attempts I filmed in 13 14 15
CHATTANOOGA POLICE OFFICER INVOLVEMENT IN TORTURE THROUGH EEG AND MRI TORTURE AND LONG DISTANCE HAILING DEVICE , THIS AGONIZING DEATH HAS BEEN PROLONGED THROUGH TACTICAL PHONE INTERCEPTION DEVICES THWARTING AID / USE OF STALKING THROUGH SECURITY COMPANY CROSSING STATE LINES / USE OF MAIL TAMPERING TO SUB MAIL ORDER MEDS FOR STEROID AND GROWTH HORMONE ATTACKING WIFE / AFTER DISCOVERY FURTHER ATTACKS USING MICROWAVE ASSAULT ON HER OVARIES WITH EMAILED VINEGAR AND LEMON TONIC SHORTENING HALF LIFE OF ANTI DEPRESSANTS CAUSING EXTREME DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY AND IRRITABILITY --SUDDEN ON SLOUGHT / FURTHER MAGNETIC FIELD FLUX MAY BE PUSHING IUD INTO HER CERVIX CAUSING TRAUMA AND BLEEDING ...I AM BLOCKED FROM SEEKING HELP AS WE ARE ELECTRONICALLY COCOONED WITH 5000 OBSTRUCTION CHARGES WITH POLICE OFFICER GEORGE JACKSON IMPERSONATING OFFICERS OUT OF STATE / Jackson is thought to be guilty of further sexual assault of myself and was filmed after a mock assault and full admission of MRI torture using post conviction offender testing / Jackson is aided and may have sheriff office support / Jackson has used tactics aiding his real estate business Keller Williams and has used sonic devices to destroy one house /
Victim Joshua Hurley Dalton Georgia
Secondary police officer Eddie Chamberlain also threatened me with tactical weapons to "talk me out of my life and wife ' and had grown obsessive and impulsive making sexual remarks pertaining to smelling my wife / he and several other officers are attempting to cover up several assassination attempts I filmed in 13 14 15
Posted by Joshua Hurley
- Apr 11, 2016, 03:04 AMMy case constitutes police officer torture using brain scan technology and a plan to get away with murdering me through brain damage over the course of 38 months of amping or "lighting me up" causing tissue damage in my brain as well as synapse blocking . Further damage is done using full body MRI causing sexual assaults and prostate pain . More..use of magnetic audio hailing devices or AREA DENIAL for burning sensations and all out assaults in my home. Lately this has been used on my wife even after her poisoning through the U.S. Mail by tampering with her hair growth supplements substituting growth hormones and steroids while ..monitoring all electronic communications ,blocking and impersonating doctors to give her false directions concerning stopping her anti-depressants improperly balancing her . We need help . These officers are in Chattanooga City police using licenced polygraphers 'moonlighting ' police officers unfortunately having the audacity to shop in my family's retail store making threats to murder us both. Joshua Hurley , Michelle Hurley victims / officer Eddie Chamberlain /officer George Jackson / Brock and Lang / these officers may be working for law enforcement officers in the Chattanooga Gibson family attempting to cover up involvement in organized crime and treason pertaining to the sething loose the shooter who may have been allowed to travel long distances so the police could publicly ambush him.
Posted by Vyvanse378
- Oct 19, 2015, 01:23 PMhttp://caselaw.findlaw.com/ga-court-of-appeals/1623997.html
I just found a case in which the same guy does the same stuff in order to try to discredit a defendant in the past 2 years.
He really is a piece of work.
The funny thing is he is so thirsty for anything to say, he will claim I have the most outlandish fetish (for non-organic things) and act like it is true because it didn't set off the polygraph.
I just found a case in which the same guy does the same stuff in order to try to discredit a defendant in the past 2 years.
He really is a piece of work.
The funny thing is he is so thirsty for anything to say, he will claim I have the most outlandish fetish (for non-organic things) and act like it is true because it didn't set off the polygraph.