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Posted by George W. Maschke
 - Feb 27, 2014, 10:20 AM
Quote from: Arkhangelsk on Feb 27, 2014, 09:59 AM
Quote from: George_Maschke on Feb 27, 2014, 05:09 AMI think practicing with a heart rate sensor (or a blood pressure cuff) is fine. 
I have found it to be counterproductive. It's like the Heisenberg uncertainty principal; observing the tracing takes mental work which affects the reaction itself.

What I think it can be useful for is demonstrating to oneself that the techniques one is employing are indeed capable of producing measurable reactions. As an alternative to watching the monitor oneself, one could have a trusted friend observe the monitor while asking practice polygraph questions.
Posted by Doug Williams
 - Feb 27, 2014, 10:13 AM
Quote from: Arkhangelsk on Feb 27, 2014, 09:59 AM
Quote from: George_Maschke on Feb 27, 2014, 05:09 AMI think practicing with a heart rate sensor (or a blood pressure cuff) is fine. 
I have found it to be counterproductive. It's like the Heisenberg uncertainty principal; observing the tracing takes mental work which affects the reaction itself.

That's true - and if you are producing a reaction large enough to be seen by such a crude method, it would be too obvious on the polygraph chart.  Subtly is the key to doing it right.
Posted by Ex Member
 - Feb 27, 2014, 09:59 AM
Quote from: George_Maschke on Feb 27, 2014, 05:09 AMI think practicing with a heart rate sensor (or a blood pressure cuff) is fine. 
I have found it to be counterproductive. It's like the Heisenberg uncertainty principal; observing the tracing takes mental work which affects the reaction itself.
Posted by George W. Maschke
 - Feb 27, 2014, 05:09 AM
I think practicing with a heart rate sensor (or a blood pressure cuff) is fine. But taking anti-anxiety medication is of dubious benefit in connection with a probable-lie CQT. It might conceivably help with the relevant/irrelevant technique (which is still used by CIA and NSA).
Posted by Ex Member
 - Feb 27, 2014, 01:36 AM
Me2013,
That is a very old post which I have never seen before. It is hogwash at best, misinformation at worst.
Posted by Me2013
 - Feb 22, 2014, 02:19 PM
Thanks...
Posted by Tips
 - Mar 29, 2011, 11:53 AM
I bought a wrist heart rate sensor at Walmart for about $30.  I am using this to determine how much effect the cm's are having.  Seems to work quite well.  I also plan to take anti-anxiety medicine, vitamin b-complex, and ginko biloba.  -complex relaxes the nerves and ginko relaxes the walls of the capillaries and arteries.  It will also add to your confidence to see your countermeasures working.  I can even watch the mental cm's working and can determine which are the most effective.  Hope this helps.