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Posted by Ex Member
- Jan 19, 2014, 02:11 PMI was joking quickie, I have a whole roll of stamps, so please keep posting. And, the good senator may just show up to read for himself.
Posted by quickfix
- Jan 18, 2014, 01:45 PMQuote from: Arkhangelsk on Jan 17, 2014, 05:11 PMDamn, now I have to send a follow up letter. You owe me a stamp quickie.Ask the good senator!
Posted by Ex Member
- Jan 17, 2014, 07:20 PMQuote from: quickfix on Jan 16, 2014, 03:00 PMP.S. you're also a liar;Oh and one more thing Quickie, this kind of stuff only works with your victims. Here you are totally impotent.
Posted by Ex Member
- Jan 17, 2014, 05:11 PMDamn, now I have to send a follow up letter. You owe me a stamp quickie.
Posted by quickfix
- Jan 17, 2014, 01:39 PMoooooooohhh! I'm soooooooo scared of Senator Coburn; you and he (and Doug Williams) can each kiss a cheek of my ass. And thank him for me for my pay raise.
Posted by Ex Member
- Jan 16, 2014, 06:15 PMQuickie, rest assured you are famous, at least to one Oklahoma Senator.
100K plus for being a complete charlatan? Hey, if you can pull off that kind of scam, more power to you.
100K plus for being a complete charlatan? Hey, if you can pull off that kind of scam, more power to you.
Posted by quickfix
- Jan 16, 2014, 03:00 PMQuote from: Arkhangelsk on Jan 15, 2014, 10:29 PMQuote from: jogury on Jan 15, 2014, 02:09 PMIt seems as though if the test can be beaten so easily with a few hours of practice then I have nothing to worry about.right?Said the fly to the spider. You have been given sound advice, go ahead and jump into the seat, heck you might even get the slow witted Quickfix, who knows?
This "slow-wit" earns a six-figure salary doing what I do (paid for in part by your taxes); what do you earn giving stupid advice?
P.S. you're also a liar; you promised to make me famous; I'm still waiting!
Posted by George W. Maschke
- Jan 16, 2014, 09:10 AMThe polygraph countermeasures outlined in The Lie Behind the Lie Detector can at best mitigate the risk of failing a polygraph "test." They cannot eliminate it. Factors beyond your control, including examiner bias, can also influence outcomes. If the examiner has a subjective belief that you're not telling the truth, you could "fail" regardless of what the charts look like. Your best option, in my opinion, is to refuse the polygraph.
Posted by jogury
- Jan 16, 2014, 07:31 AMI don't understand. The book and this site talks about how to beat the polygraph and when someone says that they are going to try to do it, people advise them not to.
because of this, i've lost confidence that it can be done.
Ok. maybe I'll think about getting out of it. but I know my wife. This is going to basically cast a huge doubt of deception.
I love this site. thanks for being so responsive.
because of this, i've lost confidence that it can be done.
Ok. maybe I'll think about getting out of it. but I know my wife. This is going to basically cast a huge doubt of deception.
I love this site. thanks for being so responsive.
Posted by Ex Member
- Jan 15, 2014, 10:29 PMQuote from: jogury on Jan 15, 2014, 02:09 PMIt seems as though if the test can be beaten so easily with a few hours of practice then I have nothing to worry about.right?Said the fly to the spider. You have been given sound advice, go ahead and jump into the seat, heck you might even get the slow witted Quickfix, who knows?
Posted by jogury
- Jan 15, 2014, 02:09 PMThere seriously is no way I'm getting out of taking this test. I'm gonna try to get a friend to help by doing some mock test and going over some of your techniques. He claims to have passed a test while lying. (how can I trust him? LOL)
It seems as though if the test can be beaten so easily with a few hours of practice then I have nothing to worry about. right?
It seems as though if the test can be beaten so easily with a few hours of practice then I have nothing to worry about. right?
Posted by George W. Maschke
- Jan 15, 2014, 02:03 PMI think it's unwise for anyone suspected of infidelity -- especially anyone wrongly suspected of infidelity -- to agree to submit to polygraph "testing" regarding that. It's degrading and demeaning. And it doesn't work. Polygraphy has no scientific basis: the results are simply not reliable.
If you take the polygraph and pass, don't you suppose that your wife will be curious enough to do an Internet search on "how to beat a polygraph" and find sites like this one that explain precisely how to do that? And then she'll wonder whether you beat the polygraph.
On the other hand, should you fail the polygraph, your situation will be only be worse.
So if I were in your shoes, I would refuse the polygraph and share with your wife documentation regarding the unreliability of polygraphy (and how the test can be beaten).
I'll send you a private message with some additional information that might be helpful.
If you take the polygraph and pass, don't you suppose that your wife will be curious enough to do an Internet search on "how to beat a polygraph" and find sites like this one that explain precisely how to do that? And then she'll wonder whether you beat the polygraph.
On the other hand, should you fail the polygraph, your situation will be only be worse.
So if I were in your shoes, I would refuse the polygraph and share with your wife documentation regarding the unreliability of polygraphy (and how the test can be beaten).
I'll send you a private message with some additional information that might be helpful.
Posted by Doug Williams
- Jan 15, 2014, 02:00 PMQuote from: jogury on Jan 15, 2014, 01:39 PMI have a polygraph coming up in the next few weeks because my wife suspects me of cheating. I came across this site and found this post https://antipolygraph.org/forum/index.php?topic=5019.msg37108#msg37108
I'm curious why some people gave Kristy" advice to not take the test?
There is no way I am getting out of taking this test. What would I say to my wife anyway? She is convinced that they are accurate and if I press the point that they are not, that makes me look guilty.
On SHOWTIME, PENN & TELLER did a show that is right on point about the fraud of the so-called "lie detector" - especially as it relates to fidelity issues. You can watch excerpts from this show, (and many others that debunk the myth of "lie detection") on this website: http://www.polygraph.com/media
So I suggest you pop some popcorn, and invite your wife to watch this show with you - it is entitled "THE LIE DETECTOR IS BULLSHIT!"
Posted by jogury
- Jan 15, 2014, 01:39 PMI have a polygraph coming up in the next few weeks because my wife suspects me of cheating. I came across this site and found this post https://antipolygraph.org/forum/index.php?topic=5019.msg37108#msg37108
I'm curious why some people gave Kristy" advice to not take the test?
There is no way I am getting out of taking this test. What would I say to my wife anyway? She is convinced that they are accurate and if I press the point that they are not, that makes me look guilty.
I'm curious why some people gave Kristy" advice to not take the test?
There is no way I am getting out of taking this test. What would I say to my wife anyway? She is convinced that they are accurate and if I press the point that they are not, that makes me look guilty.