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Posted by Mollly828
 - May 16, 2013, 04:45 PM
Mr. Brown, were you a student at the school?  In what capacity did you experience problems?  I have found no evidence of this school ever having been in violation of APA guidelines before.  If you have supporting evidence, will you please share it?
Posted by Bill_Brown
 - May 14, 2013, 04:43 PM
The school in question has had problems in the past with the quality of instruction and meeting the guidelines established by the APA.  I have had personal experience with this school and its current administrator, I feel the APA acted appropriately, only the courts can make a decision that is binding in this case, so let the courts have it. 
Posted by Twoblock
 - May 07, 2013, 11:06 AM
Without a detailed study of the complaint, it appears to me that the school followed APA guidelines and the APA was negligent in informing the school of manual changes. It appears, also, that Ortiz had a personal axe to grind.
Posted by George W. Maschke
 - May 07, 2013, 04:51 AM
Twoblock,

The link is good. Perhaps your web browser is unable to display PDF files. In that case, you can download the PDF file and open it with Adobe Acrobat Reader.
Posted by Twoblock
 - May 07, 2013, 02:46 AM
George

The complaint would not load for my viewing.
Posted by George W. Maschke
 - May 07, 2013, 02:23 AM
U.S. District Judge G. Murray Snow has issued an order in Polygraph School of Science v. American Polygraph Association directing the parties to "meet and confer prior to the filing of a motion to dismiss to determine whether it can be avoided." The order may be downloaded here:

https://antipolygraph.org/litigation/pss/order-2013-05-02.pdf
Posted by Verilu Cummings
 - Mar 31, 2013, 02:30 AM
One group of con artists, bringing a suit against another group of con-artists. Does it get anymore delicious than that, I hope that the Arizona group gets the money, and breaks the APA's back. And who says that great drama is only on the television or movies. Watching this play out will be so much fun. I do believe that their is KARMA in the universe. Time to retire Krapohl, while you still have some $$$. 
Posted by Ex Member
 - Mar 29, 2013, 05:48 PM
I dislike the practice of pulling the race card just because a certain group happens to be white. I read the lawsuit and believe in all fairness that both sides have valid points.
Posted by George W. Maschke
 - Mar 29, 2013, 02:55 PM
As reported earlier this week on AntiPolygraph.org, a federal lawsuit has been filed against the American Polygraph Association (APA) over its revocation of the Phoenix, Arizona-based School of Polygraph Science's accreditation. The APA revoked the schools accreditation because the school allowed students to complete part of the curriculum on-line.

The statement of claim along with copious exhibits may be downloaded as a searchable 14 mb PDF file here:

https://antipolygraph.org/litigation/pss/polygraph-school-of-science-v-american-polygraph-association-complaint.pdf

I'd like to invite civil, informed comment on this case, especially from our readers in the polygraph community. I would discourage mirth-making on the part of friends who, like me, oppose polygraphy.

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Questions that I have regarding this case include these:

Has there ever been a lawsuit like this in the history of the American Polygraph Association? I've been following polygraph matters for about 15 years now, and at least during this time, nothing like this has, to my knowledge, occurred.

It has been alleged that the APA doesn't treat all polygraph schools alike when it comes to inspections. Is this true? I'd be interested in the views of any polygraph school directors on this question. I appreciate the sensitivity of this topic, and again, you're welcome to post anonymously.

The statement of claim seems to imply racial and sexual bias on the part of the APA, noting that the APA directors are all white and predominantly male. (The director of the School of Polygraph Science is a woman, Laura Wells.) If you are a member of the APA, have you perceived or directly experienced racial or sexual bias in the organization?