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Posted by sackett
- Apr 09, 2008, 10:38 PMand sometimes it is as simple as:
$$$$$ vs. $
Sackett
$$$$$ vs. $
Sackett
Posted by nopolycop
- Apr 08, 2008, 11:32 PMQuote from: shleppy_foot on Apr 08, 2008, 11:09 PM
what makes you think he had a different B/I than anyone else? Or, that if LAPD only did B/I, "shlepp" would have even been hired in the first place?
I believe you are jumping to some conclusion that doesn't make sense. I have no reason to believe, nor did I intimate, that he had any different background than anyone else. I also am not convinced that the background investigation is as thorough as it should be. In the 80's, I went through a "Q" clearance background for a nuclear security job. That was extensive, and the type of background that I would like to see for all cops.
And, for what it is worth, I believe way too many cop shops place too much faith in the poly to weed out bad actors, and not enough effort in good background investigations.
Posted by sackett
- Apr 08, 2008, 11:09 PM"shleppy_foot",
not very opinionated, are you? Your post is filled with attitude and observatory opinions. I'm just curious, how are you doing in break-in?
"n.p.c.",
what makes you think he had a different B/I than anyone else? Or, that if LAPD only did B/I, "shlepp" would have even been hired in the first place? My prediction is, he will not do well in the long run; but, I could be wrong... Usually not, but sometimes.
Sackett
not very opinionated, are you? Your post is filled with attitude and observatory opinions. I'm just curious, how are you doing in break-in?
"n.p.c.",
what makes you think he had a different B/I than anyone else? Or, that if LAPD only did B/I, "shlepp" would have even been hired in the first place? My prediction is, he will not do well in the long run; but, I could be wrong... Usually not, but sometimes.
Sackett
Posted by nopolycop
- Apr 08, 2008, 10:18 PMYou still on the job? If so, answer the following question for me.
Do you think, that if LAPD did away with the polygraph, and instead, simply did a thorough background check, that they could meet their hiring goals, and ultimately recruit better officers?
Do you think, that if LAPD did away with the polygraph, and instead, simply did a thorough background check, that they could meet their hiring goals, and ultimately recruit better officers?
Posted by shleppy_foot
- Apr 08, 2008, 08:03 PMI want to share the experience I had with the LAPD polygraph weenies that I went through a year ago and passed on the third try. First of all, the fact that you are allowed three tries says something of how flawed the exam is...either it works right the first time or it doesn't....right? I have since learned that these guys have contests to see how many people they can fail in one day. What a bunch of losers.
Anyway, the first guy who gave it to me was nice enough. He put me through the sitting in the room and waiting, all the while I had the feeling I was being spied on by some pervert behind a mirror. I guess they think everyone is so stupid that when they leave you sitting there we have no idea that we are being watched and listened to. When he came back, he asked me if there was anything at all I wanted to tell him that I may have forgotten that the polygraph might pick up on and my answer was no, that I am honest and have been forthcoming with everything. After it was finished, he left me there while he read the results, then he came back in and said I had trouble with the question of did I ever take anything from my employer over $400 in value, which I never did and I was adamant in my answer to him. I've never stolen anything since I was maybe three years old and my mother made me return the item to the store...
I was told that I would be given another chance and the second time, the guy who met me was a real creep. You could just tell that this guy was a real zero in life and knew it. I was coming on the department from a very lucrative career and was dressed in a nice suit. He took my jacket and put it in another room and sat me in the room. He started asking me where I lived, how much money I made and what kind of a car I drove...jealous much?? Then the exam began and I was blown away with how unprofessional and inappropriate he was. In between questions, rather than shutting his trap, he was saying: You can't afford to get one question wrong and you are having trouble with this question...he did this between every question. Needless to say, I failed...then I was sent a letter telling me that I would have yet one more try to get it right. I passed the third time with no problems.
What an experience. It amazes me that the tax payers of the city pay the salary of these people to administer such a flawed test and that they have unprofessional losers like the second guy who gave me the exam. I went on to get hired but so many of my fellow oficers had the same harrowing experience in the Poly...
Anyway, the first guy who gave it to me was nice enough. He put me through the sitting in the room and waiting, all the while I had the feeling I was being spied on by some pervert behind a mirror. I guess they think everyone is so stupid that when they leave you sitting there we have no idea that we are being watched and listened to. When he came back, he asked me if there was anything at all I wanted to tell him that I may have forgotten that the polygraph might pick up on and my answer was no, that I am honest and have been forthcoming with everything. After it was finished, he left me there while he read the results, then he came back in and said I had trouble with the question of did I ever take anything from my employer over $400 in value, which I never did and I was adamant in my answer to him. I've never stolen anything since I was maybe three years old and my mother made me return the item to the store...
I was told that I would be given another chance and the second time, the guy who met me was a real creep. You could just tell that this guy was a real zero in life and knew it. I was coming on the department from a very lucrative career and was dressed in a nice suit. He took my jacket and put it in another room and sat me in the room. He started asking me where I lived, how much money I made and what kind of a car I drove...jealous much?? Then the exam began and I was blown away with how unprofessional and inappropriate he was. In between questions, rather than shutting his trap, he was saying: You can't afford to get one question wrong and you are having trouble with this question...he did this between every question. Needless to say, I failed...then I was sent a letter telling me that I would have yet one more try to get it right. I passed the third time with no problems.
What an experience. It amazes me that the tax payers of the city pay the salary of these people to administer such a flawed test and that they have unprofessional losers like the second guy who gave me the exam. I went on to get hired but so many of my fellow oficers had the same harrowing experience in the Poly...