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Posted by happentome
- May 07, 2002, 07:40 AMOk, sorry but it was in the morning( as it is now) I was falling asleep. That was a grammar problem. I didn't sell it! Unfortunately, I can't prove it to you. That was the past, and life goes on.....
Posted by L72cueak
- Apr 30, 2002, 11:30 PMBeech, apparently you did not read the rest of his post because he admitted he sold the car for $300:
"I agreed to pay the $300 dollars that I had sold the car for."
"...that I had sold the car for." is pretty clear to me.
"I agreed to pay the $300 dollars that I had sold the car for."
"...that I had sold the car for." is pretty clear to me.
Posted by beech trees
- Apr 30, 2002, 01:57 PMQuote from: L72cueak on Apr 30, 2002, 01:40 PM
This is also a good example of someone who took a polygraph, failed because he lied (by his own admission) and then blames the police and the polygraph procedure.
This is also a good example of someone lying about a previous post in order to further their own pro-polygraph agenda. No where in the author's post does he posit that he lied during his polygraph interrogation... although it would appear that later, after his coerced interrogation he remembered--apparently, the grammar makes it somewhat unclear-- some item of value he had stolen.
He is right to affix blame with the police who rely on a pseudo-science rather than good investigative work.
Posted by L72cueak
- Apr 30, 2002, 01:40 PMThis is also a good example of someone who took a polygraph, failed because he lied (by his own admission) and then blames the police and the polygraph procedure.
Posted by L72cueak
- Apr 29, 2002, 10:14 AMQuote from: happen2me on Apr 29, 2002, 06:09 AM
I agreed to pay the $300 dollars that I had sold the car for. I could have rejected it...
It's interesting that the person claimed he didn't lie during the polygraph, yet in his own words he admitted he sold the car for $300. I thought he said it was stolen?
Posted by happen2me
- Apr 29, 2002, 06:09 AMOk, here is the scenerio.
On a Saturday, I had to work 9 am to 6 pm. Just before I got out of work my car was stolen. I'm a high school student and therefore drove a junker. A '88 Oldsmobile Cutlass, the key for the door didn't work(learned this the hard way) and didn't lock the door, the car could be started w/out a key so I drove w/out the keys on. Three days after filing a police report, one of my uncle's saw the car and called the police. I got my car back, arrested the guy. A couple weeks go by when I get a message from a detective who has some questions to ask. An appoinment was made and I got interrogated about the case and all. They thought that I had gotten someone to steal my car then "sell" it to them. They showed me a bunch of pictures of people I didn't knew and then the he asked, "Would you be willing to take a lie detector?" I stopped for a minute and then agreed but said I'm the nervous-type person. So, the "lie detector" test was scheduled, then rescheduled cause the guy was "sick". Finally, on February 12, 2002, I went in and did the pre-testing part of it, answering honest on everything(well, except for one question about having steal something, but at the time I didn't remember). This whole time I was shaking and very nervous about the test and the room was cold too. I was hooked up to the machine( it was done by a computer and measured everything seen shown in this site) The blood pressure machine was kinda tight but after complaining he did nothing. So, he asked me the questions and after taking 3 times, he said that I had failed. I was shocked and just kept telling him how it was inaccurate and how I did nothing wrong.
He didn't believe me of course. A week or so passed when I called in to talk to the original detective. He had someone else w/ him. (oh yeah, he had taken a picture of me to show the accused of auto theft,the thief had said that I sold him the car and forged my signature) The detective told that he would make a deal w/ him. I refused but after some heavy persuasion by him and his partner, I agreed to pay the $300 dollars that I had sold the car for. I could have rejected it but I figured that the legal fees would be more plus the possibility of being in jail. I left and came back later w/ the car and the money, but told him that I would give him the car instead.This car was a liability that's why I gave it to him. Now, I have a new 2001 Cavalier which I'm still paying for it.A few weeks ago, I drove by the house where I picked up my car after it had been stolen but didn't see the car. My guess is that those a**holes in the police station are using it to catch drug dealers( I live in pot heaven)
I didn't lie during the test and the best advice for you is to never agree to take a lie detector test. Especially if you leave in the same county as mine, where a lie detecter can be used as evidence( I think it's the only one in the U.S.)
Any questions? just reply
Sincerely,
Guy who got screwed by the police
On a Saturday, I had to work 9 am to 6 pm. Just before I got out of work my car was stolen. I'm a high school student and therefore drove a junker. A '88 Oldsmobile Cutlass, the key for the door didn't work(learned this the hard way) and didn't lock the door, the car could be started w/out a key so I drove w/out the keys on. Three days after filing a police report, one of my uncle's saw the car and called the police. I got my car back, arrested the guy. A couple weeks go by when I get a message from a detective who has some questions to ask. An appoinment was made and I got interrogated about the case and all. They thought that I had gotten someone to steal my car then "sell" it to them. They showed me a bunch of pictures of people I didn't knew and then the he asked, "Would you be willing to take a lie detector?" I stopped for a minute and then agreed but said I'm the nervous-type person. So, the "lie detector" test was scheduled, then rescheduled cause the guy was "sick". Finally, on February 12, 2002, I went in and did the pre-testing part of it, answering honest on everything(well, except for one question about having steal something, but at the time I didn't remember). This whole time I was shaking and very nervous about the test and the room was cold too. I was hooked up to the machine( it was done by a computer and measured everything seen shown in this site) The blood pressure machine was kinda tight but after complaining he did nothing. So, he asked me the questions and after taking 3 times, he said that I had failed. I was shocked and just kept telling him how it was inaccurate and how I did nothing wrong.
He didn't believe me of course. A week or so passed when I called in to talk to the original detective. He had someone else w/ him. (oh yeah, he had taken a picture of me to show the accused of auto theft,the thief had said that I sold him the car and forged my signature) The detective told that he would make a deal w/ him. I refused but after some heavy persuasion by him and his partner, I agreed to pay the $300 dollars that I had sold the car for. I could have rejected it but I figured that the legal fees would be more plus the possibility of being in jail. I left and came back later w/ the car and the money, but told him that I would give him the car instead.This car was a liability that's why I gave it to him. Now, I have a new 2001 Cavalier which I'm still paying for it.A few weeks ago, I drove by the house where I picked up my car after it had been stolen but didn't see the car. My guess is that those a**holes in the police station are using it to catch drug dealers( I live in pot heaven)
I didn't lie during the test and the best advice for you is to never agree to take a lie detector test. Especially if you leave in the same county as mine, where a lie detecter can be used as evidence( I think it's the only one in the U.S.)
Any questions? just reply
Sincerely,
Guy who got screwed by the police