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Posted by T.M. Cullen
- Mar 23, 2008, 12:18 AMQuoteif you truly understood that which you attacked, with the venom of the rhetoric you possessed from this site, then half of that which you have as possessed knowledge, would be nothing more than the whisper of a misguided belief you believe you posess...
Forget me then.
How about the many credible scientific researchers at the NAS. Are they "know-nothings"? Or are you so pompous as to think you know more than they?
I think not.
TC
P.S. You getting to be almost as tedious as TLG!
Posted by notguilty1
- Mar 23, 2008, 12:07 AMQuote from: nopoly4me on Mar 23, 2008, 12:04 AMQuote from: nopoly4me on Mar 22, 2008, 10:32 PMQuoteIf polygraph didn't work, I wouldn't be doing it...
If man were meant to fly, he'd have wings!
If "bleeding" sick people in the 17th century (by physicians of the day) didn't work, they wouldn't have done it!
If you truly understood that which you attacked, with the venom of the rhetoric you possessed from this site, then half of that which you have as possessed knowledge, would be nothing more than the whisper of a misguided belief you believe you posess...
Misguide and disinform those who read this board, onward...
Sackett
You know by the way you express your self it's amazing you even have a job.
But we are working on that.
Posted by sackett
- Mar 23, 2008, 12:04 AMQuote from: nopoly4me on Mar 22, 2008, 10:32 PMQuoteIf polygraph didn't work, I wouldn't be doing it...
If man were meant to fly, he'd have wings!
If "bleeding" sick people in the 17th century (by physicians of the day) didn't work, they wouldn't have done it!
If you truly understood that which you attacked, with the venom of the rhetoric you possessed from this site, then half of that which you have as possessed knowledge, would be nothing more than the whisper of a misguided belief you believe you posess...
Misguide and disinform those who read this board, onward...
Sackett
Posted by T.M. Cullen
- Mar 22, 2008, 10:32 PMQuoteIf polygraph didn't work, I wouldn't be doing it...
If man were meant to fly, he'd have wings!
If "bleeding" sick people in the 17th century (by physicians of the day) didn't work, they wouldn't have done it!
Posted by sackett
- Mar 22, 2008, 09:36 PMIf polygraph didn't work, I wouldn't be doing it...
Sackett
Sackett
Posted by notguilty1
- Mar 22, 2008, 04:44 PMQuote from: nopoly4me on Mar 22, 2008, 01:34 PMWhat the hell is the difference?! An explanation IS an answer when it applies to the original question.
If you guys would simply get off your soapbox for a minute and stop drinking the Kool-aide, you might be able to actually have an intelligent conversation without maniacal diatribe related to the mantra of the camp...
Sackett
KOOL AIDE!!! That's all you do is drnk the KOOL AIDE and come here with the mantra that Poligraphs are reliable ( except of course when you have admitted that they are not)
Seems like you are the one full of KOOL AIDE!!
Posted by sackett
- Mar 22, 2008, 01:34 PMWhat the hell is the difference?! An explanation IS an answer when it applies to the original question.
If you guys would simply get off your soapbox for a minute and stop drinking the Kool-aide, you might be able to actually have an intelligent conversation without maniacal diatribe related to the mantra of the camp...
Sackett
If you guys would simply get off your soapbox for a minute and stop drinking the Kool-aide, you might be able to actually have an intelligent conversation without maniacal diatribe related to the mantra of the camp...
Sackett
Posted by nopolycop
- Mar 22, 2008, 12:58 PMQuote from: nopoly4me on Mar 22, 2008, 10:17 AMQuote from: nopoly4me on Mar 22, 2008, 09:41 AMQuote from: sniper5252 on Mar 22, 2008, 12:05 AM"n.p.c.",
What question have I refused to answer?
Sackett
I frankly don't have the time to review the many posts where I have asked you yes or no questions, but you beat around the bush and didn't respond. I think it all started when you claimed the lie detector test isn't really about detecting lies.
No doubt. Of course, the problem with many of the questions posed on this board is that they can not be answered with a simple yes or no. Therefore, when an explanation is offered to support an answer (i.e. going beyond simply answering yes of no) and then we're accused of not answering. Sheeesh...
Sackett
The problem is, the explanation is offered without the answer.
Posted by sackett
- Mar 22, 2008, 10:17 AMQuote from: nopoly4me on Mar 22, 2008, 09:41 AMQuote from: sniper5252 on Mar 22, 2008, 12:05 AM"n.p.c.",
What question have I refused to answer?
Sackett
I frankly don't have the time to review the many posts where I have asked you yes or no questions, but you beat around the bush and didn't respond. I think it all started when you claimed the lie detector test isn't really about detecting lies.
No doubt. Of course, the problem with many of the questions posed on this board is that they can not be answered with a simple yes or no. Therefore, when an explanation is offered to support an answer (i.e. going beyond simply answering yes of no) and then we're accused of not answering. Sheeesh...
Sackett
Posted by nopolycop
- Mar 22, 2008, 09:41 AMQuote from: sniper5252 on Mar 22, 2008, 12:05 AM"n.p.c.",
What question have I refused to answer?
Sackett
I frankly don't have the time to review the many posts where I have asked you yes or no questions, but you beat around the bush and didn't respond. I think it all started when you claimed the lie detector test isn't really about detecting lies.
Posted by nopolycop
- Mar 22, 2008, 09:38 AMQuote from: sniper5252 on Mar 21, 2008, 11:49 PMNoPolyCop,
Lately you seem like a hamster in a wheel. You seem to be hung up on the word OPINION, ART, and ASSUMPTION. Let me see if I can be of some help. For example doesn't a cadiologist physician render their medical opinion based quite often on an EKG chart as the person having a certain condition? Isn't medicine known both as an "Art "and a Science ? Might that Doctor, in the best interest of both the patient and the hospital, render such an "opinion" based on their training, and assume that what they see in their charts leads them to a conclusion. Don't Doctors, Coroners, and others testify to their professional Opinions based on the evidence presented to them as someone trained in that speciality. Why should polygraph be any different. You have assumed bias where none can be shown to exist. Mathamatically polygraph clears more people than it ever fails in the elimination of suspects. Further, in the pre-employment arena, most people clearly pass their tests. Doing so does not guarentee a job, but rather has them move into a more well defined pool from which hirings take place after a complete background.
From what you write it would seem you are so biased that you can't place common sense definitions of words as they apply to other professions on the polygraph profession, so are you really capable of having a "Discussion" on it. Get the emotion out of it, reduce it down to real world concepts, and judge them on that.
NLG:
The difference between a polygraphist and a cardiologist is about 10+ years of education and study. Trade school v. medical school. There, no emotion, just fact.
Posted by T.M. Cullen
- Mar 22, 2008, 05:39 AMI meant that as a compliment.
Posted by T.M. Cullen
- Mar 22, 2008, 05:38 AMQuoteYour postings make you look weak and ignorant.
As opposed to yours, which make you look pompous and idiotic.
Posted by T.M. Cullen
- Mar 22, 2008, 05:32 AMQuote....when he could possibly work his way into what he wants through hard work and honesty.
Honesty? If he comes up false positive, he would have been honest, yet failed, like many who have attested on this board.
If the examiner tries to assure him the machine is detecting "deception", even though he/she knows the machine can't do that, then the examiner is being a liar and dishonest.
Honesty should be a two-way street.
TC
Posted by sackett
- Mar 22, 2008, 12:13 AMQuote from: sniper5252 on Mar 21, 2008, 05:30 PMQuoteYou want a position of responsibility and authority yet you come here, before your test, to learn how to "beat" the examiner? Not much integrity being displayed by that decision.
It doesn't show any less integrity than polygraphers who knowingly lie, and depend on convincing the test subject of the lie behind the polygraph, and that it is 95-98% accurate.
There is nothing wrong with lying to a LIAR. Especially, when your career and reputation is on the line.
Incidently, add to the list the polygrapher who tested Gene Simmons on TV the other night. She boldly claimed the test is "95% accurate".
Mr Cullen,
when "sniper" fails to get the job, and I believe he will if applying with a professional agency with professional examiners, either due to noncooperation or outright failure, and since he's planning on lying about his past, I hope you will feel the same self-righteousness you espouse here. Because, all you will have done is to convince another person (albeit unethical in nature) to screw himself, when he could possibly work his way into what he wants through hard work and honesty.
Sleep well,
Sackett
P.S. Make sure you get sniper's address. He'll need an application for the Anti-Polygraph Whiney Ass Club real soon.