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Posted by JunkMan
 - Jun 20, 2007, 05:47 PM
Quote from: 1904 on Jun 19, 2007, 11:22 AM
Quote from: JunkMan on Jun 18, 2007, 05:06 PM
Quote from: theaman8 on Mar 12, 2007, 04:38 AM

FYI 

" The results of the polygraph examination shall not be used as evidence in a hearing to prove that a violation of supervision has occurred." Fla. Stat. Ann. § 947.1405 (10)(b)(1).

Well then, why test such a subject in the first instance..??
(Just for practice?? )


Proponents (Threrapist's/polygrapher's/PO's) probably think the fear factor will illicit some admission or confession, if there is any, (possibly even a false confession) from the examinee... "It's the best tool we got......Bla Bla Bla" scenario...

----Money making prop... :-/
Posted by 1904
 - Jun 19, 2007, 11:22 AM
Quote from: JunkMan on Jun 18, 2007, 05:06 PM
Quote from: theaman8 on Mar 12, 2007, 04:38 AM

FYI 

" The results of the polygraph examination shall not be used as evidence in a hearing to prove that a violation of supervision has occurred." Fla. Stat. Ann. § 947.1405 (10)(b)(1).

Well then, why test such a subject in the first instance..??
(Just for practice?? )
Posted by JunkMan
 - Jun 18, 2007, 05:06 PM
Quote from: theaman8 on Mar 12, 2007, 04:38 AMi am just curious
i am a florida sex offender i am 22 and had sex with a 15 year old thinking she was 19...
and i have to take a polygraph test for councsing can this test be used agaisnt me in court or no..
also i have epilepsy can this stop me from talking the test i am on dilantin for the epilepsy
thanks for any help

FYI 

"As part of a treatment program [for sex offenders], participation in a minimum of one annual polygraph examination to obtain information necessary for risk management and treatment and to reduce the sex offender's denial mechanisms. The polygraph examination must be conducted by a polygrapher trained specifically in the use of the polygraph for the monitoring of sex offenders, where available, and at the expense of the sex offender. The results of the polygraph examination shall not be used as evidence in a hearing to prove that a violation of supervision has occurred." Fla. Stat. Ann. § 947.1405 (10)(b)(1).
Posted by 1904
 - Jun 18, 2007, 12:11 PM
Quote from: digithead on Mar 12, 2007, 04:27 PMGeorge,

As part of his or her release, the probationer or parolee signs a legal document that stipulates the conditions of supervision. Within the context of post-conviction supervision, the polygraph is stipulated in these conditions as part of the treatment and supervision protocols. The probationer "agrees" that polygraph results can be used as a basis for revocation, regardless if the revocation is by a parole board or judge...

All probationers and parolees should know their conditions of supervision by heart. The epileptic poster should check his own documents as they will state explicitly what he agreed to regarding the polygraph in his release papers...

At best, he can get a lawyer to argue that his epilepsy somehow "taints" the polygraph results but since there is no peer-reviewed research on this matter, the court or parole board likely will not give it much weight...

digithead


Hi, Dilantin (Phenytoin) is also sold as Phenytek. It is prescribed for migraines, cluster headaches and some types of temporal lobe epilepsy. Side effects include hallucination, confused and unusual thought patterns.

A person that is lawfully taking this or similar medication is NOT a suitable polygraph subject and should NEVER be tested if this usage is declared to the examiner.

But I guess that would be like expecting a celluloid dog to catch an asbestos cat, running through hell.

As a side thought - the kid on Dilantin should maybe also be taking anti-inflammatories. Lots of them.

Posted by digithead
 - Mar 12, 2007, 04:27 PM
George,

As part of his or her release, the probationer or parolee signs a legal document that stipulates the conditions of supervision. Within the context of post-conviction supervision, the polygraph is stipulated in these conditions as part of the treatment and supervision protocols. The probationer "agrees" that polygraph results can be used as a basis for revocation, regardless if the revocation is by a parole board or judge...

All probationers and parolees should know their conditions of supervision by heart. The epileptic poster should check his own documents as they will state explicitly what he agreed to regarding the polygraph in his release papers...

At best, he can get a lawyer to argue that his epilepsy somehow "taints" the polygraph results but since there is no peer-reviewed research on this matter, the court or parole board likely will not give it much weight...

digithead
Posted by George W. Maschke
 - Mar 12, 2007, 05:42 AM
While I'm not sure whether polygraph outcomes may be used as evidence in, say, a hearing on violation of probation, any statement that you make may potentially be used against you in court.

Your epilepsy will not prevent you from being polygraphed. There are no scientific studies on the effects of any medical conditions or medications on the results of polygraphic lie tests, and polygraph operators are generally willing to polygraph anyone with an arm and a pulse.
Posted by theaman8
 - Mar 12, 2007, 04:38 AM
i am just curious
i am a florida sex offender i am 22 and had sex with a 15 year old thinking she was 19...
and i have to take a polygraph test for councsing can this test be used agaisnt me in court or no..
also i have epilepsy can this stop me from talking the test i am on dilantin for the epilepsy
thanks for any help