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Posted by truthbtold
 - Feb 12, 2006, 07:54 PM
This site promotes telling the truth and making sure you pass instead of becoming a victim to the polygraph's false "science".  Simply tools to pass honestly since the machine alone cannot do this.  How people choose to use the tools is another thing, but hey, first amendment.  Censorship anyone?
Posted by SadderbutWiser
 - Feb 12, 2006, 07:39 PM
Eastwood--I would also like to point out that this site's main goal is to promote HONESTY in both the polygraph community AND those who have been forced to undergo them to pursue their career dreams.

Apparently you haven't read the info here, because it promotes total honesty during the polygraph--to help HONEST people PASS.

My DH went in and got BLINDSIDED--thinking that complete honesty would help him pass.  He didn't pass the first time--and they tortured him until his "time was up."  THEN I read up on this site ways to help him (not even CMs, just a better mindset all around) and he passed--and THIS time, without the mental anguish that he had to endure during the first go-around.

THe Poly is complete BS, and I've seen living proof of it.  I have no reason to be bitter--my hubby passed and is getting his job.  It's just that he had to go though this utter nonsense to do it.  

Now, go strap some tubes around your *own* chest and play with your machine for a while.  See if it can decipher your *OWN* BS.  I doubt it's "smart" enough to even uncover your obvious lies.
Posted by Binky
 - Feb 10, 2006, 11:29 PM
This stuff just makes me laugh. If this site is so full of crap, why do members of the polygraph community spend so much time here? If polygraphy is so accurate under all circumstances, then a polygrapher should love the idea of future victims reading about countermeasures that a polygrapher will easily identify.  

I guess if a website existed that compromised my ability to support my family, I'd be defensive too.

BTW, do polygraphers have to take a pre-employment polygraph? Probably not, they would pass everytime.

God bless the Constitution of the United States of America.
Posted by 8675309
 - Jan 26, 2006, 04:17 PM
Quote from: Eastwood on Jan 26, 2006, 12:44 AMGeorge, I have to give you credit.  You have cultivated a big flock of sheep, who blindly follow your suggestions and are lining themselves up for the disappointment of their lives.  When they're caught using your magical countermeasures, and lose whatever chance they may have had by taking a chance and telling the truth, I hope you'll volunteer to pay what would they would have made in salary while they're on the unemployment line.

Obviously I won't get a response from you on this because you are a chicken shit, but do you actually believe any of us are actually unemployed?  I first applied for the Special Agent position in the summer of 2004.  Its now January 2006 and I am awaiting my polygraph results.  If I pass, there is still the physical and physical fitness - At the pace the Government works, that would probably be around June or July of 2006.  So that is an entire 2 years of my life I would have spent applying for a job.  You can't honestly believe I've sat around since 2004 without a job expecting to get hired by the FBI.  

I can guarantee everyone who has taken the test with the FBI would give up a shitload of money and sacrifice a lot to take the job.  So your logic is flawed - in fact by people failing, their lives turn out better than if had taken the FBI's offer - the FBI and the US are the ones who suffer because they must take people who are less qualified and wasted tax payers dollars on testing people for over a year who don't pass the poly.
Posted by Johnn
 - Jan 26, 2006, 03:13 PM
Quote from: George W. Maschke on Jan 26, 2006, 04:55 AM

Eastwood,

If you genuinely believe that anything I've said or written about polygraphy is untrue or otherwise misleading, then please explain, supporting your arguments with facts and reason.

I don't think he can.  That's why  he posts and runs.

Alleged,
My company also gave me more responsibilities. I make 10 years here this week, and I now get enhanced benefits - 1 month of vacation and 60 sick days a year, free tuition, stock options.... and for every dollar that I put in my retirement, I get 3!    :D  
Posted by George W. Maschke
 - Jan 26, 2006, 04:55 AM
Quote from: Eastwood on Jan 26, 2006, 12:44 AMGeorge, I have to give you credit.  You have cultivated a big flock of sheep, who blindly follow your suggestions and are lining themselves up for the disappointment of their lives.  When they're caught using your magical countermeasures, and lose whatever chance they may have had by taking a chance and telling the truth, I hope you'll volunteer to pay what would they would have made in salary while they're on the unemployment line.

Eastwood,

If you genuinely believe that anything I've said or written about polygraphy is untrue or otherwise misleading, then please explain, supporting your arguments with facts and reason.
Posted by nolehce
 - Jan 26, 2006, 03:42 AM
Hey Eastwood (more like Wooden Head) --

What the hell are you talking about?!:

lose whatever chance they may have had by taking a chance and telling the truth, I hope you'll volunteer to pay what would they would have made in salary while they're on the unemployment line.

I told the truth, was "failed" by a lame ass polygrapher, and lost whatever chance I had for the position I wanted ... and as far as "what I would have made in salary," after undergoing the polygraph mind-f**k, a private sector company immediately turned around and offered me $25,000 more in compensation.

So again, Woody, what the hell are you talking about?! Unemployment line? That's where you and your lying colleagues will be the day the shameful field of polygraphry crumbles into its well deserved ignominy.

Surely you can admit this: one thing about sheep is that they tend do to be innocent ... I guess that makes you the wolf.
Posted by EosJupiter
 - Jan 26, 2006, 01:29 AM
Quote from: Eastwood on Jan 26, 2006, 12:44 AMGeorge, I have to give you credit.  You have cultivated a big flock of sheep, who blindly follow your suggestions and are lining themselves up for the disappointment of their lives.  When they're caught using your magical countermeasures, and lose whatever chance they may have had by taking a chance and telling the truth, I hope you'll volunteer to pay what would they would have made in salary while they're on the unemployment line.
EastWood,

As usual you show up, spout off and then go hide. No supporting verbage, proof, or links to back up your claim. Is it that hard to use that finely tuned polygrapher mind and come up with something original ?
 
Everytime one of you (polygrahers) , come on this website and have nothing to add. You tacitly prove and validate that this website is the final word on how much BS the polygraph is. And never have I seen countermeasures detected, mental ones that is.  I have not seen one person I have passed on the TLBLD, not pass. Funny how real data destroys BS. So I highly suggest that its not sheep beating your polygraph, it a bunch of big bad wolves. And if you folks are so adept at catching countermeasures, why is there not a whole bunch of disgruntled folks in here complaining. Hmmm seems rather quiet with no dissatisfied customers.  As I have said in other posts. Every time you use the polygraph you make a new enemy. You do the numbers, there is more of us than you. And if you can fathom it, its known as the law of diminishing return. Your point of no return is coming !!! Just a matter of time !!

Regards ....
Posted by Johnn
 - Jan 26, 2006, 12:50 AM
Quote from: Eastwood on Jan 26, 2006, 12:44 AMGeorge, I have to give you credit.  You have cultivated a big flock of sheep, who blindly follow your suggestions and are lining themselves up for the disappointment of their lives.  When they're caught using your magical countermeasures, and lose whatever chance they may have had by taking a chance and telling the truth, I hope you'll volunteer to pay what would they would have made in salary while they're on the unemployment line.

That's okay because the chances of passing a polygraph while telling the truth are 40-50% anyway.  I told the truth on two occasions and failed both exams.
I'm not blind and I'm not dumb.  I live by my own experience.  So there's your testimony.
Posted by Eastwood
 - Jan 26, 2006, 12:44 AM
George, I have to give you credit.  You have cultivated a big flock of sheep, who blindly follow your suggestions and are lining themselves up for the disappointment of their lives.  When they're caught using your magical countermeasures, and lose whatever chance they may have had by taking a chance and telling the truth, I hope you'll volunteer to pay what would they would have made in salary while they're on the unemployment line.