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Posted by Wallerstein
 - Nov 01, 2005, 03:30 PM
Hey Beaner. Thanks for the info.  I have no intention of lying to an investigator.  I just want to know if I apply at a future date for a secret or a top secret will my unsuitable CIA determination stop me from getting even a secret?  

In other words, would an OPM investigator have access to my CIA poly results/charts?  
Posted by Beaner
 - Oct 29, 2005, 03:45 AM
Yes. Your blowout at Agency will immediately register. NAC checks the OPM Security/Suitability Investigations Index (SII), the Defense Clearance and Investigations Index (DCII), the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) Identification Division's name and fingerprint files, and other files or indices when necessary (noted in your history to check local or state for criminal history). Your previous rejection will register with DCII or SII (depending on who ran it).

Moreover, if you are applying for a SECRET - they will actually do three things...

Run a NAC.
Pull your credit.
Run a NACI (National Agency Check and Inquiry) - in addition to the NAC data, they also pull national criminal history (federal and state level reported crimes) and attempt to send inquiries to at least a few of the people on your SF86 (primary residence reference, the three people you listed as personal references, your employer, etc.)

Again... I strongly advise you not to lie to the new people about your Agency ping... if you're cooked for life - you better find that out now... without ENSURING you're cooked for life by lying to the investigation team.


Posted by Wallerstein
 - Oct 18, 2005, 08:34 PM
OK.  I have gleaned from the web site that the method of agency sharing seems to be the national agency check or NAC.  

If I was deemed unsuitable by CIA and applied at a later date for a government job that only required a secret clearance would the NAC bring up my CIA failed application (btw, the CIA stated that I could affirm that I was never denied a security clearance by them)?  Or does the NAC only search FBI databases?  

Any ideas?  If it is just conjecture that you have please say so.