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Posted by kane
- Oct 02, 2005, 02:45 AMRetcopper,
I see that you are still clueless.
I shudder in horror for the le agency that you work for or used to work for.
And the PTB in certain circles wonder why so many folks view le with a jaundiced eye.
I see that you are still clueless.
I shudder in horror for the le agency that you work for or used to work for.
And the PTB in certain circles wonder why so many folks view le with a jaundiced eye.
Posted by Eastwood
- Oct 01, 2005, 09:10 PMWatch the liberals here excoriate you for that one
Posted by Onesimus
- Oct 01, 2005, 12:56 AMQuote from: retcopper on Sep 30, 2005, 02:12 PMYou guys are really grasping at straws to prove your "rampant corruption" allegation.
Where I work there is a clear ethical standard:
Do what is best for the country, unless it conflicts with your own best interests, the financial interests of whatever company you work for, or will lessen your division's political power. Then talk about the importance of the mission, and how dedicated you personally are to it even though everyone else is messing up and just looking out for their own interests.
Posted by polyscam
- Sep 30, 2005, 07:47 PMretcopper wrote:
Oh, copper please enlighten those of us "criminals" who post on this site. Your narrow mindedness is quite stale. I would be willing to put my record against yours any day with the expectation that I am exceptionally "cleaner" than you. Your condescending attitude speaks volumes as you know nothing about the posters with the exception of your regular ASSumptions.
Surely, as a human you have heard the old adage "If it smells like shit, it probably is." I think you get MY drift.
QuoteSergeant:
If you are a real cop then you surely must have heard of the adage; "You lie wth dogs and you get fleas." Get my drift? You and I know that the majority of people that come to this site for one reason. I hope you can sleep well at night.
Oh, copper please enlighten those of us "criminals" who post on this site. Your narrow mindedness is quite stale. I would be willing to put my record against yours any day with the expectation that I am exceptionally "cleaner" than you. Your condescending attitude speaks volumes as you know nothing about the posters with the exception of your regular ASSumptions.
Surely, as a human you have heard the old adage "If it smells like shit, it probably is." I think you get MY drift.
Posted by retcopper
- Sep 30, 2005, 05:41 PMSergeant:
If you are a real cop then you surely must have heard of the adage; "You lie wth dogs and you get fleas." Get my drift? You and I know that the majority of people that come to this site for one reason. I hope you can sleep well at night.
If you are a real cop then you surely must have heard of the adage; "You lie wth dogs and you get fleas." Get my drift? You and I know that the majority of people that come to this site for one reason. I hope you can sleep well at night.
Posted by Sergeant1107
- Sep 30, 2005, 04:16 PMQuote from: Twoblock on Sep 30, 2005, 03:17 PMretcopperSometimes if you don't feed the trolls they go away on their own. Or starve to death.
You asked to be enlightened however, you don't have the ability to be enlightened. Instead of trying to disprove what Kane and I wrote, you make a poor attempt at twisting things around. You need to go back to the Democrat's school of twisting. They are masters at it.
I see no need, as I'm sure is the case of the rest who visit this site, to respond your posts any more because you have proven that you can't debate the issues. So go ahead and have the last twist.
Thus far "retcopper" has contributed nothing to this site except to read a post here and there and respond with the equivalent of "Oh, yeah?"
I have already mentioned this to him once in another thread, but apparently he is either unwilling or unable to come up with anything intelligent to say.
Posted by Twoblock
- Sep 30, 2005, 03:17 PMretcopper
You asked to be enlightened however, you don't have the ability to be enlightened. Instead of trying to disprove what Kane and I wrote, you make a poor attempt at twisting things around. You need to go back to the Democrat's school of twisting. They are masters at it.
I see no need, as I'm sure is the case of the rest who visit this site, to respond your posts any more because you have proven that you can't debate the issues. So go ahead and have the last twist.
You asked to be enlightened however, you don't have the ability to be enlightened. Instead of trying to disprove what Kane and I wrote, you make a poor attempt at twisting things around. You need to go back to the Democrat's school of twisting. They are masters at it.
I see no need, as I'm sure is the case of the rest who visit this site, to respond your posts any more because you have proven that you can't debate the issues. So go ahead and have the last twist.
Posted by IC_employee
- Sep 30, 2005, 02:39 PMI had a meeting today with a ajudicator (sp)
This was actually very pleasant. I may have to go in for a 3rd poly. *ARGGGGH!! I feel like I am just repeating myself over and over again. apparently in their dictionary, "no" means ask the same question 8 more times.
Nonnombre: Since I am on location at CIA, I need to get their clearance. That's why i have to go through their clearance procedures.
This was actually very pleasant. I may have to go in for a 3rd poly. *ARGGGGH!! I feel like I am just repeating myself over and over again. apparently in their dictionary, "no" means ask the same question 8 more times.
Nonnombre: Since I am on location at CIA, I need to get their clearance. That's why i have to go through their clearance procedures.
Posted by retcopper
- Sep 30, 2005, 02:12 PMTwoblock and Kane:
You guys are really grasping at straws to prove your "rampant corruption" allegation. If you had your way you probably would put drunk "Chappaquidick " Ted Kenedy in charge of the CIA and Janet "Wacko'' Reno in charge of the FBI. Two fine liberals, who by the way are also against the polygraph. Thank god that the CIA and the FBI work for us.
You guys are really grasping at straws to prove your "rampant corruption" allegation. If you had your way you probably would put drunk "Chappaquidick " Ted Kenedy in charge of the CIA and Janet "Wacko'' Reno in charge of the FBI. Two fine liberals, who by the way are also against the polygraph. Thank god that the CIA and the FBI work for us.
Posted by kane
- Sep 30, 2005, 01:27 PMRetcopper,
Ever heard of Richard Hansen, Aldrich Ames, Ruby Ridge, Waco, or Oklahoma City?
How about the myraid of abuses that are reported in all sorts of news sources daily, from ATFE "raids", to IRS bullying, Janet Reno, and so on?
I am not saying that all federal employees are crooked. I know many federal employees and they are fine people.
However, the system as it currently stands is corrupt. It's about numbers and money. The more of a certain minority they hire, the better they look. The more they can say that "x" thing is wrong, the more tax money they can get.
Surely you can't be that totally devoted to the feds, can you?
Ever heard of Richard Hansen, Aldrich Ames, Ruby Ridge, Waco, or Oklahoma City?
How about the myraid of abuses that are reported in all sorts of news sources daily, from ATFE "raids", to IRS bullying, Janet Reno, and so on?
I am not saying that all federal employees are crooked. I know many federal employees and they are fine people.
However, the system as it currently stands is corrupt. It's about numbers and money. The more of a certain minority they hire, the better they look. The more they can say that "x" thing is wrong, the more tax money they can get.
Surely you can't be that totally devoted to the feds, can you?
Posted by Twoblock
- Sep 30, 2005, 12:47 AMretcopper
I know you asked Kane but, I'm gonna add my 2 cents anyway.
Don't you read newapapers and watch TV? Or, when an article appears about a bad cop, do you play ostrich?
J. Edgar Hoover was a homo pervert who kept dossiers on all powerful politicians including presidents. This is how he got every damn thing he asked for from congress. He held the bad deeds they had done over their heads. I read this in a number of publications. This info was not published until after his death. The news media was afraid of him too. He and Lynden Johnson were buddies. Each had dirt on the other. Also, after his death, articles began to appear about the corruption of that organization. The CIA has had their share of bad press also. If these two agencies had shared their intellingence information there, in all likelyhood, would not have been the 9-11 horrow. All of the above stuff, and a lot more has been plastered all over the news media. It is not just my "anti police" attitude (as you put it). Where have you been man?
We have never gotten our money's worth from D. C. because of the corruption there. Look at the conspiratorial corruption between D. C. and the oil industry for which you, I and the rest of this country are paying dearly.
I know you asked Kane but, I'm gonna add my 2 cents anyway.
Don't you read newapapers and watch TV? Or, when an article appears about a bad cop, do you play ostrich?
J. Edgar Hoover was a homo pervert who kept dossiers on all powerful politicians including presidents. This is how he got every damn thing he asked for from congress. He held the bad deeds they had done over their heads. I read this in a number of publications. This info was not published until after his death. The news media was afraid of him too. He and Lynden Johnson were buddies. Each had dirt on the other. Also, after his death, articles began to appear about the corruption of that organization. The CIA has had their share of bad press also. If these two agencies had shared their intellingence information there, in all likelyhood, would not have been the 9-11 horrow. All of the above stuff, and a lot more has been plastered all over the news media. It is not just my "anti police" attitude (as you put it). Where have you been man?
We have never gotten our money's worth from D. C. because of the corruption there. Look at the conspiratorial corruption between D. C. and the oil industry for which you, I and the rest of this country are paying dearly.
Posted by retcopper
- Sep 29, 2005, 03:11 PMKane:
You wrote that all of us have seen the corruption throughout the feds. Please enlighten me.
You wrote that all of us have seen the corruption throughout the feds. Please enlighten me.
Posted by kane
- Sep 29, 2005, 01:47 PMPolygraphs are utterly worthless. I tried to get on with the FBI last summer as an investigative specialist.
I had three polys with them, all three were called inconclusive. I got the same rude, crude and socially unaccpetable treatment as you and others noted here.
I am very glad, (it's a God thing in my opinion), that I did not get the job. Over the past few years, I think that all of us have seen the incompetence and corruption that is all throughout the feds.
I know why I had an inconclusive test. I was the wrong age, wrong gender, wrong color. I did not fit the little profile they wanted that particular day.
It's their loss, not mine.
I had three polys with them, all three were called inconclusive. I got the same rude, crude and socially unaccpetable treatment as you and others noted here.
I am very glad, (it's a God thing in my opinion), that I did not get the job. Over the past few years, I think that all of us have seen the incompetence and corruption that is all throughout the feds.
I know why I had an inconclusive test. I was the wrong age, wrong gender, wrong color. I did not fit the little profile they wanted that particular day.
It's their loss, not mine.
Posted by nonombre
- Sep 26, 2005, 09:38 PMQuote from: IC_employee on Sep 26, 2005, 01:17 PMthey do not do life style polys, they only do counter intel
Maybe you can talk your current agency into doing the test on you if all they ask is "counter intel" questions. That would seem fair since you really belong to them anyway. Wouldn't that take care of the problem?
Nonombre
P.S. I am not a intelligence agency polygraph examiner, so forgive my ignorance, but what exactly are "counter-intel" questions? Is that like, "Are you trying to infiltrate my agency?"
Posted by IC_employee
- Sep 26, 2005, 01:17 PMthey do not do life style polys, they only do counter intel