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Posted by NSAreject
- Mar 13, 2005, 12:55 PMI know of one person, at my former company, who was
denied by NSA, and ended up getting cleared through
the NRO, in Reston, Va. If you didn't admit to anything
horrible, then your DoD clearance will probably be ok -
just be honest with the DoD folks, or they will deny you
on "personal conduct". I used to feel bad, about my
situation at the NSA, but now I no longer care, and I am
much happier dealing with other agencies. The NSA is
a really dysfunctional place to work - people with
unresolved anger/issues, inappropriateness, etc. To
give you an example, one of my old assistant
work-center chiefs had a beef with his boss; their desks
were next to each other, so very early one morning, he
came in, before his boss, and kept slamming his chair
against his boss's desk screaming, "get the f--- out of
my face". I came very close to calling the NSA police.
Funny thing, after all my years there, I never figured out
what all the fuss was about - too many people, reading
too many Tom Clancey books !
denied by NSA, and ended up getting cleared through
the NRO, in Reston, Va. If you didn't admit to anything
horrible, then your DoD clearance will probably be ok -
just be honest with the DoD folks, or they will deny you
on "personal conduct". I used to feel bad, about my
situation at the NSA, but now I no longer care, and I am
much happier dealing with other agencies. The NSA is
a really dysfunctional place to work - people with
unresolved anger/issues, inappropriateness, etc. To
give you an example, one of my old assistant
work-center chiefs had a beef with his boss; their desks
were next to each other, so very early one morning, he
came in, before his boss, and kept slamming his chair
against his boss's desk screaming, "get the f--- out of
my face". I came very close to calling the NSA police.
Funny thing, after all my years there, I never figured out
what all the fuss was about - too many people, reading
too many Tom Clancey books !
Posted by NSAreject
- Mar 12, 2005, 06:25 PMClearever,
Well, that is the beauty of the NSA polygraph; it cannot
be reviewed or challenged. I was a former employee,
going for reinstatement, and was put into adjudication
limbo. Depending on what you admitted to, during the
poly, you may have lost your chance of getting a DoD
clearance, or having an existing clearance pulled. I bet
you were not informed of this dilemma. I lucked out,
and quit my company (therefore, stopping the process),
before they had a chance to deny me (although, they
didn't have enough to), and got cleared through a
different (and alot more sane) Intel agency. I'll have
nothing to do with them again. The NSA poly is just a
ruse to deny people, who they are not sure of... a bunch
of crap. Now that you have a denial, for your special
access SCI, if you apply for a DoD clearance, you will
have to put it down on your SF-86 form, and explain it
to the investigators.
Well, that is the beauty of the NSA polygraph; it cannot
be reviewed or challenged. I was a former employee,
going for reinstatement, and was put into adjudication
limbo. Depending on what you admitted to, during the
poly, you may have lost your chance of getting a DoD
clearance, or having an existing clearance pulled. I bet
you were not informed of this dilemma. I lucked out,
and quit my company (therefore, stopping the process),
before they had a chance to deny me (although, they
didn't have enough to), and got cleared through a
different (and alot more sane) Intel agency. I'll have
nothing to do with them again. The NSA poly is just a
ruse to deny people, who they are not sure of... a bunch
of crap. Now that you have a denial, for your special
access SCI, if you apply for a DoD clearance, you will
have to put it down on your SF-86 form, and explain it
to the investigators.