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Posted by George W. Maschke
 - Feb 23, 2005, 04:24 PM
Quote from: mikel575 on Feb 12, 2005, 09:17 PM...For the first test i left my eyes open.The last two He said he wanted my eyes closed.Fidgety I opened my eyes and so him making rude faces into a two way mirror...

There may have been a method to your polygrapher's madness, however unscientific. It is just possible that he was making faces in order to see if he could get a reaction from you. Had you shown such a reaction, this would have confirmed that you had not obeyed his instruction to keep your eyes closed. Based on that, he might have inferred that you were likely being deceptive regarding some relevant issue.

A similar polygraphers' trick is described at p. 137 of the 3rd edition of The Lie Behind the Lie Detector. In this ruse, the examinee is told that it is very important for an accurate test result that he thoroughly wash his hands. The examinee is then told to go to the washroom, wash his hands, and return. Unbeknownst to him, he is observed by the polygrapher (or an assistant) through a two-way mirror. If he fails to wash his hands as instructed, deception may be inferred, regardless of what the polygraph charts may "say."

As for your later question about the meaning of "NDG," I am not familiar with this acronym. Might you have meant "NDI?" This acronym means "No Deception Indicated." AntiPolygraph.org has recently learned of another polygrapher ruse wherein if a subject has passed his polygraph examination, he is informed that the results were "NDI." If the examinee has previously claimed not to have researched polygraphy, he should not know that "NDI" means "No Deception Indicated." The examinee should appear not to comprehend (and the polygrapher is under no obligation to explain) what "NDI" means. But if the examinee breathes a sigh of relief, it would tip the polygrapher off that contrary to the examinee's denial, he had, in fact, researched polygraphy and falsely denied it. The polygrapher might then further infer that the examinee had also employed polygraph countermeasures.
Posted by anythingformoney
 - Feb 17, 2005, 06:32 PM
Nope, Dimas, no sarcasm on that one.  That IS a crock.
Posted by dimas
 - Feb 16, 2005, 07:28 PM
QuoteAlso does anyone know what  
 RE:NDG means?

NO DAMN GOOD?

I really have no idea what it means, however, every strory has two sides to it.

1) Every polygraph I have seen or been in was video taped.

2) If he did indeed act in an unprofessional manner, then you can report this and action will be taken if your grievance over the matter is genuine.  Remember, everybody has a boss.

3)  I may be mistaken, but it appears to me that AS was being sarcastic.

4) I have sat on many oral boards and have often been on the receiving end of complaints placed by candidates I have interviewed that also made outrageous allegations.  Once again, these are audio taped and they end up making themselves look like an ass by filing a false complaint.  So, forgive me if I am somewhat skeptical about your story.

Posted by mikel575
 - Feb 14, 2005, 04:48 PM
Yes I think it is.I dont know whether this is a standard format for this test or what.The personal insults were varied and insulting.Watching him make the faces in the two way mirror really makes me question the whole test.After the test I had no post interview but finished the psych tests and pre employment interviews over the next two days.I dont know if I passed or should look elsewere for employment.Any feedback would be appreciated.Also to Nunyan it is pretty damn funny when you think about it.Also does anyone know what
  RE:NDG means?
Posted by nunyun
 - Feb 13, 2005, 01:30 AM
hehehe.......
Posted by anythingformoney
 - Feb 12, 2005, 11:27 PM
That IS a crock.  You mean the jerk was ridiculing you DURING THE POLYGRAPH EXAM?  What loser!  That is extremely unprofessional, and it sounds to me like he shouldn't be in that position of responsibility.  Thank you for sharing that.
Posted by mikel575
 - Feb 12, 2005, 09:17 PM
I used to believe in the polygraph.I never would have given it a second thought.That is until I took the damn thing.My polygrapher took about an hour and a half before the test to get me nice and riled up.He made personal insults,yelled at me for calling him sir,and generally had me so worked up I didnt even want the job.For the first test i left my eyes open.The last two He said he wanted my eyes closed.Fidgety I opened my eyes and so him making rude faces into a two way mirror.If that is your idea of science and technology this world is in trouble.