- Welcome to AntiPolygraph.org Message Board.
A forum for free and open discussion of polygraph-related topics
Posted by xenonman
- Jan 19, 2017, 02:35 PMQuote from: xenonman on Jan 18, 2017, 11:24 AMIt could be anything. They won't tell you. For all you will ever know, it could be your high school English teacher who is still pissed off because you refuse to capitalize "i" when referring to yourself.
Or if you capitalized "E.E." when referring to e. e. cummings! lol
Posted by xenonman
- Jan 18, 2017, 12:02 PMQuoteI believe i was rejected due to the polygraph confession.
but why does the email say: Background check" Failed.
this will haunt me forever, i need to know why!?
all those years in school... for this..?
I can understand fully. That was exactly my reaction to the manner in which my application to the CIA was definitively and irreversibly f*cked up by similarly high-handed BI tactics!
Posted by xenonman
- Jan 18, 2017, 11:54 AMPosted by xenonman
- Jan 18, 2017, 11:47 AMQuote from: George_Maschke on Aug 03, 2007, 09:06 AMAccording to a USA Today article published Wednesday, 1 August 2007, LVMPD's combined polygraph/background check disqualification rate stands at 70%:
I'd suspect that the CIA washout rate is even higher than that!
Posted by xenonman
- Jan 18, 2017, 11:30 AMQuotei signed a bill of sale for my friend. Both of these guys were ok and aware of the signing.
One way of getting around that dilemma is to put the word "for" in front of the typed name of the signatory, and use your own signature above that.
Posted by xenonman
- Jan 18, 2017, 11:24 AMQuote from: AuntyAgony on Oct 14, 2016, 03:00 AMIt could be anything. They won't tell you. For all you will ever know, it could be your high school English teacher who is still pissed off because you refuse to capitalize "i" when referring to yourself.
That's absolutely correct, Auntie. In my case, my BI for a summer IC internship was fouled up by a group of cowards at the library where I worked part-time while in school. None were authorized by me as references. One bitter lesson that I learned from all this was that, as a class, institutional (as opposed to public) library staff are nearly as despicable as are advocates of the polygraph!
Posted by xenonman
- Jan 17, 2017, 10:11 AMQuoteHas anyone passed all of their tests
poly
fitness
oral boards
then disqualified for character issues? What does that even mean?
You might try joining casino security, assuming that they don't polygraph! 8-)
Posted by xenonman
- Jan 17, 2017, 10:09 AMQuote from: the_fighting_irish on Jan 12, 2017, 06:43 PMIt only takes one asshole
Indeed! It also appears that each negative recommendation (regardless of source) in a BI is weighted the same as a dozen positive ones.
Posted by Joe McCarthy
- Jan 12, 2017, 06:43 PMIt only takes one asshole
Posted by xenonman
- Jan 04, 2017, 11:18 PMQuote from: the_fighting_irish on Jan 02, 2017, 07:54 PMIt means they found something in your personal history they didn't like, in my opinion. Either someone has said something about you when they called references and family. If this is the case, you have bigger problems than not getting on with METRO; you have a rat.... A gnawing heaving rat in your circle.
Having said that, base on my experience, it is usually something on social media that screwed you over.
one or both, are distinct possibilities.
Just my take based on the limited information.
P.S. I hope I didn't say anything you'd find offense. I have a unique sense of humor
This is exactly the problem I had with my IC applications. Based on my FOIA/PA requests, I believe that my rejection was due entirely to the BI. Unfortunately, the BI'ors were able to "develop" a series of informants (all at one employer in particular), not authorized by me, who went out of their way to provide incorrect/inaccurate accounts to the investigators.
Posted by Joe McCarthy
- Jan 02, 2017, 07:54 PMIt means they found something in your personal history they didn't like, in my opinion. Either someone has said something about you when they called references and family. If this is the case, you have bigger problems than not getting on with METRO; you have a rat.... A gnawing heaving rat in your circle.
Having said that, base on my experience, it is usually something on social media that screwed you over.
one or both, are distinct possibilities.
Just my take based on the limited information.
P.S. I hope I didn't say anything you'd find offense. I have a unique sense of humor
Having said that, base on my experience, it is usually something on social media that screwed you over.
one or both, are distinct possibilities.
Just my take based on the limited information.
P.S. I hope I didn't say anything you'd find offense. I have a unique sense of humor
Posted by Alena
- Jan 02, 2017, 06:48 PMHas anyone passed all of their tests
poly
fitness
oral boards
then disqualified for character issues? What does that even mean?
poly
fitness
oral boards
then disqualified for character issues? What does that even mean?
Posted by Aunty Agony
- Oct 14, 2016, 03:00 AMQuote...i officially received an email from my recruit stating i failed the "Background check".Recruiters lie, interviewers lie, polygraph examiners lie.
I believe i was rejected due to the polygraph confession.
But sometimes they tell the truth. If your recruiter says you passed the poly but failed the BI, the most likely explanation for this puzzling phenomenon is that you passed the poly but failed the BI.
QuoteThere is nothing in my background of what so ever that could indicate me as a problem or etc.It wouldn't have to be anything real. If someone they interviewed decided to lie about you for some reason, and they couldn't find anyone to tell them the truth, then your BI would be tainted.
It could be anything. They won't tell you. For all you will ever know, it could be your high school English teacher who is still pissed off because you refuse to capitalize "i" when referring to yourself.
Posted by Valor
- Oct 13, 2016, 09:06 PM2016 Applicant
Made it all the way to Polygraph exam, i passed according to the examiner. However, within the questions i was asked if i had ever signed a document that was under another persons name. Out of honesty and fear to Fail, i said yes.
Reason: 2 Weeks prior to my poly test, i signed a bill of sale for my friend. Both of these guys were ok and aware of the signing. Although it maybe considered forgery or illegal to sign for another person, i knowingly did so because i received permission from the buyer and seller. Research shows that under these permissions and circumstance, it is a permissible confession.
Ok so fast forward 2 weeks, i officially received an email from my recruit stating i failed the "Background check" . That is where i am completely devastated by theyre decision & the mystery of why!?
There is nothing in my background of what so ever that could indicate me as a problem or etc.
I believe i was rejected due to the polygraph confession.
but why does the email say: Background check" Failed.
this will haunt me forever, i need to know why!?
all those years in school... for this..?
Made it all the way to Polygraph exam, i passed according to the examiner. However, within the questions i was asked if i had ever signed a document that was under another persons name. Out of honesty and fear to Fail, i said yes.
Reason: 2 Weeks prior to my poly test, i signed a bill of sale for my friend. Both of these guys were ok and aware of the signing. Although it maybe considered forgery or illegal to sign for another person, i knowingly did so because i received permission from the buyer and seller. Research shows that under these permissions and circumstance, it is a permissible confession.
Ok so fast forward 2 weeks, i officially received an email from my recruit stating i failed the "Background check" . That is where i am completely devastated by theyre decision & the mystery of why!?
There is nothing in my background of what so ever that could indicate me as a problem or etc.
I believe i was rejected due to the polygraph confession.
but why does the email say: Background check" Failed.
this will haunt me forever, i need to know why!?
all those years in school... for this..?
Posted by Doug Williams
- Mar 12, 2014, 08:19 PMQuote from: 6364303735070 on Mar 12, 2014, 06:26 PMI just took the Polygraph test for Las vegas Metro Police and... they said I was using counter measures to manipulate the test.
It is a sad irony that often the people polygraph operators accuse people of using "countermeasures" are those who have no idea what that even means! As a matter of fact, polygraph operators are now so paranoid that one of the questions frequently asked on the polygraph test itself is if the subject has read my or George's book. Many of these unscrupulous jerks will fail or disqualify people just because they are suspected of the horrible Orwellian "thought crime" of educating themselves! As a matter of fact, the information in these books is so effective, (and because the polygraph as a "lie detector" is so ineffective), it is considered to be "contraband" - it is actually prohibited by Big Brother's polygraphers in the government!