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Posted by Old Timer
 - Apr 27, 2014, 09:49 AM
QuoteThank you guys for your help. So the test questions that they only care about are about National Security?

DoD administers counterintelligence-scope polygraph examinations. The relevant questions will be those in the handbook.

QuoteAlso I committed Internet forum fraud on an Army website by lying about my name and birthdate(I wanted ask about underage drinking and didn't want to use my name) and also pirated movies online. (never got in trouble or went to jail)Should be concerned at all?

Not if you keep your mouth shut. Actually, these aren't that significant, but if you're stupid enough to describe what you did as "Internet forum fraud," you're inviting your polygraph examiner to play up that admission and to find you deceptive on a relevant question about misuse of a computer system. Keep your mouth shut.

QuoteWould be asked about these lies in my post test interview? If so...what should I do?

The polygraph can't read your mind. Your polygraph examiner will know only what you choose to tell him.
Posted by Mistertst
 - Apr 27, 2014, 12:58 AM
Thank you guys for your help. So the test questions that they only care about are about National Security?

Also I committed Internet forum fraud on an Army website by lying about my name and birthdate(I wanted ask about underage drinking and didn't want to use my name) and also pirated movies online. (never got in trouble or went to jail)Should be concerned at all?

Would be asked about these lies in my post test interview? If so...what should I do?
Posted by Ex Member
 - Apr 27, 2014, 12:25 AM
Quote from: Mistertst on Apr 26, 2014, 10:41 PMDoes the Polygraph ask questions like "Have you lied in your pre-test interview?" IS it Control or a Test question? 
Mister,
I have not heard this exact wording. Sometimes, the question "Do you intend to tell me the truth today?" is asked, but more often used as an unscored sacrifice relevant. I stand by my previous recommendation that you study the related sections in TLBTLD more thoroughly to learn to be able to differentiate between the various types of questions.
Posted by Mistertst
 - Apr 26, 2014, 10:41 PM
Does the Polygraph ask questions like "Have you lied in your pre-test interview?" IS it Control or a Test question?
Posted by George W. Maschke
 - Apr 25, 2014, 03:04 PM
In a control question test, polygraphers expect to see reactions to control questions. The key to passing is to show stronger reactions to the control questions than to the relevant questions.

The Department of Defense typically uses a "directed-lie" technique called the "Test for Espionage and Sabotage." In this variant, the polygraph operator actually instructs the examinee to lie to the control questions. You'll find examples of the questions asked on the Test for Espionage and Sabotage in the federal polygraph handbook:

https://antipolygraph.org/documents/federal-polygraph-handbook-02-10-2006.pdf
Posted by Mistertst
 - Apr 25, 2014, 02:24 PM
I read the thing. Off the charts means looks like a lie. So if there is a question like "Have you lied to authority" and it turns out to be lie(by comparing to other control questions), when I say no, what are the consrquences?
Posted by Ex Member
 - Apr 25, 2014, 01:38 PM
Quote from: Mistertst on Apr 24, 2014, 11:16 PMAlso for Control questions...what if one control questions are off the charts compared to other control questions? Will I be suspected of a lie and get in trouble if the control question is a serious issue?
Mister,
I don't know you mean by "off the charts" control questions. In the thread the George directed you to, it mentions the appropriate section in TLBTLD which you should read to help in your understanding of control questions and their purpose. From your post, I think you need to read it thoroughly and come back with any residual questions you may have.
Posted by Mistertst
 - Apr 24, 2014, 11:16 PM
 So what type of questions do they ask for important interogation questions? Just National security stuff? Are they silmilar to FBI and NSA questions?

Also for Control questions...what if one control questions are off the charts compared to other control questions? Will I be suspected of a lie and get in trouble if the control question is a serious issue?
Posted by George W. Maschke
 - Apr 24, 2014, 11:59 AM
See this thread regarding the expected answer to a "control" question:

https://antipolygraph.org/forum/index.php?topic=5104.msg37628#msg37628
Posted by Mistertst
 - Apr 23, 2014, 03:50 PM
So what is the answer expected?
Posted by Ex Member
 - Apr 04, 2014, 01:06 AM
Mister,
You should give the answer that is expected as determined in the pre-test interview.
Posted by Mistertst
 - Apr 04, 2014, 12:13 AM
About the control questions in the beggining, when they say things like "have you ever to anyone of authority?" or "have you ever lied on a form" How should I respond? With the truth or with lie?
Posted by George W. Maschke
 - Apr 02, 2014, 03:34 PM
Quote from: Mistertst on Apr 02, 2014, 02:45 PMSo what are my chances of getting into huge trouble?

I don't think you're likely to get into significant trouble for having lied, upon your recruiter's instructions, about a childhood disease.

QuoteIn the pre-test and post-test, will I still be hooked up?

No. The pre- and post-test portions of a polygraph examination are typically conducted without the attachments connected to the examinee.

QuoteAlso on the irrevelant control questions...how should I respond?

There are "irrelevant" questions and "control" questions, but there's no such thing as an "irrelevant control" question. You'll find the various polygraph question types explained in detail in Chapter 3 of The Lie Behind the Lie Detector.
Posted by Mistertst
 - Apr 02, 2014, 02:45 PM
So what are my chances of getting into huge trouble?

In the pre-test and post-test, will I still be hooked up?

Also on the irrevelant control questions...how should I respond?
Posted by George W. Maschke
 - Apr 01, 2014, 12:22 AM
Regrettably, it appears that to help meet their quotas, recruiters sometimes instruct applicants to omit details on their enlistment papers. This puts service members in a dilemma when they seek security clearances.

To address the question in the title of your post, although there is no relevant question about medical history in polygraph screening interrogations, it is possible that you'll be questioned about it during the pre-test or post-test phases.

It is not unusual for a question like "Have you ever lied on an official form?" to be asked, but in the context of a polygraph screening, it would be treated as a control question, not a relevant one.

It is unusual for an investigation to be launched solely based on polygraph chart readings. The main purpose of the polygraph is to elicit admissions.

To learn more about polygraph methodology (it has no scientific basis and depends on the polygrapher lying to and otherwise deceiving the examinee), see our book, The Lie Behind the Lie Detector:

https://antipolygraph.org/lie-behind-the-lie-detector.pdf