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Posted by Doug Williams
- Jan 21, 2014, 09:43 AM[/quote]
The truth of the matter is, polygraph operators can do whatever they want with impunity. You are totally at their whim. They like to think they are professionals with expert skills, but they are not. Read some of the postings here from polygraph operators and you will quickly see they are devoid of any scientific background or critical thinking skills; they behave more like 7th graders. They are charlatans plain and simple.[/quote]
Ark - You are absolutely right - polygraphers are out of control! There are millions of people who have been falsely branded as liars, simply because they had a nervous reaction when they answered a question. They have had their lives ruined because they believed the lie that the polygraph was reliable and accurate as a "lie detector", and that the polygrapher was an honorable professional who would treat them fairly. They found out the hard way that the polygrapher was just an interrogator - that the polygraph was just a prop he used to frighten and intimidate them. And worse yet, that the polygrapher could accuse them of lying without any evidence to prove that accusation and, to add insult to injury, they could not challenge or appeal his decision! That's not fair, it is not the way things should be done in this country and it must be stopped!
The truth of the matter is, polygraph operators can do whatever they want with impunity. You are totally at their whim. They like to think they are professionals with expert skills, but they are not. Read some of the postings here from polygraph operators and you will quickly see they are devoid of any scientific background or critical thinking skills; they behave more like 7th graders. They are charlatans plain and simple.[/quote]
Ark - You are absolutely right - polygraphers are out of control! There are millions of people who have been falsely branded as liars, simply because they had a nervous reaction when they answered a question. They have had their lives ruined because they believed the lie that the polygraph was reliable and accurate as a "lie detector", and that the polygrapher was an honorable professional who would treat them fairly. They found out the hard way that the polygrapher was just an interrogator - that the polygraph was just a prop he used to frighten and intimidate them. And worse yet, that the polygrapher could accuse them of lying without any evidence to prove that accusation and, to add insult to injury, they could not challenge or appeal his decision! That's not fair, it is not the way things should be done in this country and it must be stopped!
Posted by Ex Member
- Jan 20, 2014, 10:06 PMQuoteMy follow up question: Once you are hooked into the polygraph machine and give off strong CM's after answering questions related to DQing/arresting serious crimes, would the polygraph examiner automatically assume that you are a killer, rapist, pervert etc? Or will the examiner assume that you are just nervous/excited when asked sensitive questions?Fatman,
The truth of the matter is, polygraph operators can do whatever they want with impunity. You are totally at their whim. They like to think they are professionals with expert skills, but they are not. Read some of the postings here from polygraph operators and you will quickly see they are devoid of any scientific background or critical thinking skills; they behave more like 7th graders. They are charlatans plain and simple.
Posted by fatman
- Jan 16, 2014, 12:00 PMHi everyone, I have one question that has been bothering me. So when you apply for any police agency, you will have to fill out an pre-employment polygraph questionnaire and mail it to the recruiters to assess if you even you make it to the polygraph stage. So in those questionnaires, they ask you questions about committing serious crimes like involvement in child porn sex with animals, dead bodies, murder, arson, etc.
It is obvious that if you admonish any information that implicates your involvement in such illegal activities, they will DQ you for life. You will never work in law enforcement because of the permanent record on your file let alone grant you the chance to proceed to the polygraph stage so.
Under this reality, then is it logical to assume that once you make it to the polygraph stage and once the polygraph examiner/interrogator asks you about your involvement in such activities, when you are hooked to the machine, you will give the expected answer (no). The polygraph examiner will then base your physiological response you gave on the serious crime questions on the relevant questions that are more common and likely of police applicants like drug use, drug dealing, prostitution, stealing?
My follow up question: Once you are hooked into the polygraph machine and give off strong CM's after answering questions related to DQing/arresting serious crimes, would the polygraph examiner automatically assume that you are a killer, rapist, pervert etc? Or will the examiner assume that you are just nervous/excited when asked sensitive questions?
Ive never had a polygraph test before but i am curious to know if by purposely giving off a strong physiological response after answering a question relating to serious crime questions will serve as a baseline to compare my response to less serious but still disqualifying admissions. I mean cmon, a polygraph examiner who sees a 18-20 years old, prim, handsome and articulate young man who has attended a prestigious univeristy and does volunteer work for at risk youths with will not automatically assume that person is a foreign spy, a murderer or some pervert who needs to pay for sex right?
It is obvious that if you admonish any information that implicates your involvement in such illegal activities, they will DQ you for life. You will never work in law enforcement because of the permanent record on your file let alone grant you the chance to proceed to the polygraph stage so.
Under this reality, then is it logical to assume that once you make it to the polygraph stage and once the polygraph examiner/interrogator asks you about your involvement in such activities, when you are hooked to the machine, you will give the expected answer (no). The polygraph examiner will then base your physiological response you gave on the serious crime questions on the relevant questions that are more common and likely of police applicants like drug use, drug dealing, prostitution, stealing?
My follow up question: Once you are hooked into the polygraph machine and give off strong CM's after answering questions related to DQing/arresting serious crimes, would the polygraph examiner automatically assume that you are a killer, rapist, pervert etc? Or will the examiner assume that you are just nervous/excited when asked sensitive questions?
Ive never had a polygraph test before but i am curious to know if by purposely giving off a strong physiological response after answering a question relating to serious crime questions will serve as a baseline to compare my response to less serious but still disqualifying admissions. I mean cmon, a polygraph examiner who sees a 18-20 years old, prim, handsome and articulate young man who has attended a prestigious univeristy and does volunteer work for at risk youths with will not automatically assume that person is a foreign spy, a murderer or some pervert who needs to pay for sex right?