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Posted by beech trees
- May 15, 2002, 10:27 AMWe believe you batman.
Posted by Batman (Guest)
- May 15, 2002, 09:52 AM To Slinky and all her advisors:
Well Slinky, you tried, but you didn't succeed. You should have stayed
, however you tried to be 
, and as a result we are 
. For all those who read this site, here's what happened:
Slinky did the crime, she was just reluctant to do the time! However, she followed William's handbook to the letter, for which we were thankful. After her attempts at countermeaures, we re-tested her, she tried CM's again, we tested her again, and she failed. To her credit she held out, however we are a persistent bunch, and after confronting her with her own confession, which she detailed on this site, she confessed to her involvement.
If she had simply been honest from the beginning things would have been much easier for her. Her involvement was somewhat minor, and if she had simply been honest, rather than lie, and had taken the polygraph on the up & up rather than attempting to use countermeasures, she would have come out of this in a much better light.
Here's the best advise any readers of this site will ever get. Honesty continues to be the best policy!!!
Well Slinky, you tried, but you didn't succeed. You should have stayed
, however you tried to be , and as a result we are . For all those who read this site, here's what happened:Slinky did the crime, she was just reluctant to do the time! However, she followed William's handbook to the letter, for which we were thankful. After her attempts at countermeaures, we re-tested her, she tried CM's again, we tested her again, and she failed. To her credit she held out, however we are a persistent bunch, and after confronting her with her own confession, which she detailed on this site, she confessed to her involvement.
If she had simply been honest from the beginning things would have been much easier for her. Her involvement was somewhat minor, and if she had simply been honest, rather than lie, and had taken the polygraph on the up & up rather than attempting to use countermeasures, she would have come out of this in a much better light.
Here's the best advise any readers of this site will ever get. Honesty continues to be the best policy!!!
Posted by George W. Maschke
- May 07, 2002, 12:59 AMQuoteThank you but would I appear to be guilty if all of a sudden I told them I did not want to take the test??
You are already under suspicion, otherwise you would not have been asked to submit to a polygraph interrogation. Beech trees' advice was sound: you should refuse the polygraph and get a lawyer. Your military base (or another base in the area) should have a Judge Advocate General (JAG) office where you can seek legal advice. You need it.
Posted by slinky
- May 06, 2002, 07:11 PMThank you but would I appear to be guilty if all of a sudden I told them I did not want to take the test?? I just want this whole thing to be over without going as far as getting lawyers especially as I am at a military base in Germany and they have told me since I do not fall under military law the german police will be called and I will be doing with them. They told me today if I take the test and pass that will be the end of the whole thing especially since they have no evidence. Should I just try to use the counter measures to get this whole thing over and done with . Can I be charged with suspicion of doing something but with no proof
Posted by beech trees
- May 05, 2002, 09:45 PMHi slinky,
Don't take the polygraph. Call whomever it was that asked you to take one and politely tell them that your attorney has directed you to decline their invitation to be interrogated outside of his counsel-- a polygraph is most certainly an interrogation, and you would be a fool to submit to one voluntarily, guilty or innocent.
A common bluff among investigators is to tell you you've been caught on tape, or make allusions that you've been caught on film, hoping the threat will make you cave and confess. Don't fall for it. If they *did* have you on tape, a confession and your cooperation would be unnecessary. You need to stop listening to your interrogators and start defending yourself in this matter. That means hiring or at least consulting with a good defense attorney, one who agrees that you NOT submit to interrogations and a polygraph without him being present.
If the investigators are trying to use the threat of your husband's knowledge of this matter against you, simply tell them you're told him everything and he backs you up 100%.
HIRE A LAWYER.
Don't take the polygraph. Call whomever it was that asked you to take one and politely tell them that your attorney has directed you to decline their invitation to be interrogated outside of his counsel-- a polygraph is most certainly an interrogation, and you would be a fool to submit to one voluntarily, guilty or innocent.
A common bluff among investigators is to tell you you've been caught on tape, or make allusions that you've been caught on film, hoping the threat will make you cave and confess. Don't fall for it. If they *did* have you on tape, a confession and your cooperation would be unnecessary. You need to stop listening to your interrogators and start defending yourself in this matter. That means hiring or at least consulting with a good defense attorney, one who agrees that you NOT submit to interrogations and a polygraph without him being present.
If the investigators are trying to use the threat of your husband's knowledge of this matter against you, simply tell them you're told him everything and he backs you up 100%.
HIRE A LAWYER.
Posted by slinky
- May 05, 2002, 07:59 PMI am due to take a polygraph test tomorrow afternoon and I know that I am not telling the whole truth but the truth coming out would be devestating news to my husband. Although it is not a serious lie I can't bear to tell the truth. I am being investigated for an criminal offense but they are on the wrong track although I do have some knowledge and played a part in the activity. Now they (military investigators) say they have security camera footage of me commiting this crime but I know this is wrong as I did not do what they say I did, but they may have me doing something, I'm not sure. So to prove my innocence they asked me to take a polygraph test. I agreed to this hoping they were just trying to scare me into confessing beings it was such a minor crime. Would they ask me to do a test if they had any evidence? Are they just trying to make me confess??? Another worry is I don't want my husband to find out (he is military, I am not) and they say if I fail the test he will recieve a $10,000 bill?? Where would I stand if I refused to take the test, I mean surely if they had evidence they would charge me or would they?? Will I appear guilty if I refuse the test?? Or if I took the test would that get them off my back?? have read the lies behind the lie detector and also downloaded Doug Williams manuel but to clarify some things, When answering an control question where I intend to manipulate a reaction when should I alter breathing, during or after the examiner asks the question??? How long will my altered breathing pattern last??? During all this when should I use the pucker affect and how much should I tense my anal muscles?? HOw long should I hold this tense feeling??