Of all the replies I have recieved, I accept the ones siding with me. Not because I like hearing them, but because they're the only ones that give any reasons without putting down anyone elses. I think that the people who have something bad to say about me have something eating away at their soul, too, but just choose to rag on someone else to make themselves look better. I'm not saying that I don't appreciate your replies, but I am saying if you're going to reply to my problem, than direct it to me.

I want everyone to know that I came to this site for advice, and no doubt I got it. But I will still continue with the departments' testing process, no matter the outcome. I want the sheriff's dept. to know what I did and know that I accept the responsibility of my wrongdoing. Doing nothing and not continuing with the testing assures me of not getting the job.
At least if I continue, I still might have a chance, depending on how mature and understanding my employer is. 

Thank you for everyones advice and I'll post a reply soon to let you all know how it went.

Wannabe wrote on Sep 8^th, 2001 at 1:00am:


I never claimed to better than anyone. My "attacks" as you call them, have substance, unlike your original comments to Dan. You obviously know you were wrong, so let's just leave it at that. 

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You are entitled to your opinion, even though it's not based on reality or fact, but we've already been over all of that.

Wannabe wrote on Sep 10^th, 2001 at 7:51pm:


Now that's uncalled for!

Wannabe wrote on Sep 10^th, 2001 at 10:20pm:


No need to apologize. I'm glad you believe in Utopia. Perhaps if more people did the world would be a better place (definitely wouldn't be a need for polygraph).  

I took a polygraph for a local LE agency today and I was scared to death. I opted to tell the truth about every question I was asked. They asked questions about employee theft and retail theft (off the machine). I have spent the last 9 months in the academy and I have a lot riding on this exam. The polygraph examiner asked me a question like "Other than what you have told me are you withholding any info. about stealing items" I hope this was a control question because I about jumped out of the seat. He only asked me about certain things and not about everything I had ever stolen. i.e. money from my parents, etc.. I thought about it a second and told him no because I had answered him truthfully on the questions he asked me. Does this mean I will most likely appear deceptive or does this mean if I was calmer when I answered the relevant questions I should be Ok? Also, I was not given the results. I asked him if I passed and he told me that he had to look over the chart. Is this good or bad. I did some stupid stuff in college but nothing too bad.

Squid -

Go to http://www.michigan.gov/msp ;
select education, training and careers (on the left side of the page)
select MSP recruiting
select examination process

The snippet states:
"The examination process begins with a video based written test. The score you achieve on this examination determines if you will be processed further. You may retake the written examination in an attempt to raise your score no more often than once every six months.

Candidates who meet the established cut-off point for the video based testing will continue in the selection process and are subject to a physical agility test, drug screening, traffic and criminal history checks, initial pre-screening interview, background investigation, background investigation review, and a final oral interview. Candidates must successfully complete all of these steps to be placed on the employment list. Candidates who receive a conditional offer of employment will be invited to participate in medical and psychological testing. Candidates passing these tests will be offered an appointment to the Michigan State Police Training Academy in Lansing contingent upon department hiring needs and position availability."

While it doesn't necessarily spell out p-o-l-y-g-r-a-p-h, I think it is a definite possibility. 

Heck, just call them and ask? If you're worried about your phone number etc, do it from a pay-phone, but this is a good question, and I'm sure not the weirdest one they've received.

Hi John,

Please don't entertain the notion that a polygraph can detect lying. Remember, you're a prospective law enforcement official and as such should be professionally and privately skeptical of 'mind reading machines'. They don't exist John. While I concur that lying about one's past is reprehensible, the polygraph has nothing to do with whether or not one is being truthful on one's application. I can assure you this: If you employ countermeasures as described in The Lie Behind The Lie Detector, you're sure to pass the polygraph. Whether or not you have the right stuff for a career as a LEO I don't know, but you don't want to entrust that decision in part to the lime-green leisure suit wearing types who sit behind the magic spirit box. They're tin gods John, and the information available on this site will arm you against them.