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Set Shawnee Co., Kansas Officials Straight on Poly
Jan 31st, 2001 at 9:37pm
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As noted on the AntiPolygraph.org news page, the Shawnee County, Kansas Sheriff's Department is asking the county commissioners for funding to buy a polygraph instrument and train a polygrapher, on the ground that polygraphs are more reliable than voice stress analyzers (which the sheriff's department is currently using).

Shawnee County officials need to know about the lie behind the lie detector before spending taxpayer dollars to trade one pseudoscientific form of lie detection for another. They need to understand that polygraphy has not been shown by competent research to operate at better than chance levels of accuracy under field conditions, that it has a built-in bias against the truthful, and that polygraph "tests" are easily beaten through the use of readily-learned countermeasures.

While lie detectors may be useful for duping naive and gullible suspects into confessing, no one should be included or excluded as a suspect based on these pseudoscientific "tests." And these "tests" must never be relied upon to assess the honesty and integrity of employees and applicants for employment.

Shawnee County Sheriff Dick Barta may be reached by e-mail to richard.barta@co.shawnee.ks.us or at (785) 368-2207.

The three-member Shawnee County Board of Commissioners includes:

  • Chairman Vic Miller Commission@co.shawnee.ks.us .
  • Vice-Chairwoman Marice Kane Commission@co.shawnee.ks.us .
  • Ted Ensley Commission@co.shawnee.ks.us .


Reporter Alicia Henrikson of the Topeka Capital-Journal, who wrote about the sheriff's request for a polygraph instrument and training, can be reached by e-mail to ahenrikson@cjonline.com .

Contact them and tell them the truth about lie detectors.

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Re: Set Shawnee Co., Kansas Officials Straight on
Reply #1 - Feb 2nd, 2001 at 2:20pm
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The Shawnee Co. board of commissioners has unanimously approved funding for the county sheriff's department to buy a polygraph instrument, and it's main application will reportedly be for pre-employment polygraph screening. See Alicia Henrikson's article, "Sheriff's department to get polygraph equipment," in today's Topeka Capital-Journal:

http://cjonline.com/stories/020201/com_polygraph.shtml

I e-mailed the commissioners and the sheriff regarding the dangers of relying on pseudoscientific polygraph "tests," on 31 January, but received no replies. They cannot say they weren't warned.

This information may be of some legal importance to any Shawnee County Sheriff's Department employees or applicants who, in the future, are falsely accused of deception. The full text of the messages I sent follow:

1) To the county commissioners:

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Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:54:02 +0100
From: "George W. Maschke" <maschke@antipolygraph.org>
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Organization: AntiPolygraph.org
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To: Victormiller@aol.com, commission@co.shawnee.ks.us
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Dear Shawnee County Commissioners:

I read in the Captal-Journal that your sheriff is asking you to fund
a polygraph for his department. Undersheriff Dan Breci told the
Capital Journal that, "the perception in law enforcement circles is
that polygraphs are more reliable than voice stress analyzers."

You need to know that neither polygraphy nor voice stress analysis have
been shown by competent scientific research to operate at better than
chance levels of accuracy under field conditions. Polygraph "testing" in
particlar has a built-in bias against the truthful, and yet can be (and
has been) easily beaten by deceptive persons through simple polygraph countermeasures.

While polygraphs (as well as voice stress analyzers) can be useful for
duping naive and gullible suspects into confessing, one must be careful
never to include or exclude anyone as a suspect based on
pseudoscientific procedures like polygraphy or voice stress analysis.
And you should by no means allow the use these devices to judge the
honesty and integrity of applicants for employment.

I invite you to download AntiPolygraph.org's free on-line book, The Lie
Behind the Lie Detector (503kb PDF):

http://antipolygraph.org/lie-behind-the-lie-detector.pdf

You'll find the trickery (not science) on which polygraphy depends laid
bare, and also learn how anyone -- truthful or not -- can produce a
"truthful" polygraph chart.

The $19,700 cost for the polygraph instrument and training would be
better spent training officers in conventional interview and
interrogation techniques, or returned to Shawnee County taxpayers.

Sincerely,

George Maschke
AntiPolygraph.org
http://antipolygraph.org



2) To Sheriff Dick Barta:

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Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:02:40 +0100
From: "George W. Maschke" <maschke@antipolygraph.org>
Reply-To: maschke@antipolygraph.org
Organization: AntiPolygraph.org
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To: Dick Barta <richard.barta@co.shawnee.ks.us>
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Dear Sheriff Barta:

I read in the Captal-Journal that you are asking the county
commissioners to fund a polygraph for your department. Your
undersheriff, Dan Breci, told the Capital Journal that, "the perception
in law enforcement circles is that polygraphs are more reliable than
voice stress analyzers."

You need to know that neither polygraphy nor voice stress analysis have
been shown by competent scientific research to operate at better than
chance levels of accuracy under field conditions. Polygraph "testing" in
particlar has a built-in bias against the truthful, and yet can be (and
has been) easily beaten by deceptive persons through simple polygraph countermeasures.

While polygraphs (as well as voice stress analyzers) can be useful for
duping naive and gullible suspects into confessing, you must be careful
never to include or exclude anyone as a suspect based on
pseudoscientific procedures like polygraphy or voice stress analysis.
And you should by no means use these devices to judge the honesty and
integrity of applicants for employment.

I invite you to download AntiPolygraph.org's free on-line book, The Lie
Behind the Lie Detector (503kb PDF):

http://antipolygraph.org/lie-behind-the-lie-detector.pdf

You'll find the trickery (not science) on which polygraphy depends laid
bare, and also learn how anyone -- truthful or not -- can produce a
"truthful" polygraph chart.

The $19,700 cost for the polygraph instrument and training would be
better spent on training your officers in conventional interview and
interrogation techniques.

Sincerely,

George Maschke
AntiPolygraph.org
http://antipolygraph.org



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Re: Set Shawnee Co., Kansas Officials Straight on
Reply #2 - Feb 24th, 2001 at 12:33am
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I sent everyone a letter talking about my experience with the polygraph in Kansas.  I didn't get any responses but I suspected that.  At least I can I tried.Sad
  
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