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clearance denied Guest	In 2023 - ClearanceJobs.com Admitted the Polygraph is Just For Getting Confessions . . . Jan 26^th, 2024 at 4:16pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Did anyone see this? Last year, the ClearanceJobs.com folks did a live stream where they went over the clearance process and even mention the polygraph. At the 24-minute and 16-second mark (which I have time-stamped in the link below) they mention that "the polygraph alone cannot be used to deny or revoke a security clearance." THIS IS A LIE. They also say that the "polygraph is really good at getting people to disclose information that wasn't previously disclosed." Seconds later, the lady adds that an applicant's "over-honesty" will be an issue if the applicant is disclosing information that he or she had not disclosed before. There it is. More proof the polygraph is just for confession. Everyone keep your mouth shut and don't tell the polygraphers anything! Keep your crimes to yourself. lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KnRprrDBmU&t=1456s


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George W. Maschke Global Moderator Online Make-believe science yields make-believe security. Posts: 6220 Joined: Sep 29^th, 2000	Re: In 2023 - ClearanceJobs.com Admitted the Polygraph is Just For Getting Confessions . . . Reply #1 - Jan 26^th, 2024 at 7:00pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	I believe that I did see this on YouTube (not live, but shortly after the fact). Where Lindy Kyzer states that "the polygraph alone cannot be used to deny or revoke your security clearance," I wouldn't say she was lying. That is, I don't assume that she was deliberately trying to deceive her audience. I don't think she was. But she is certainly mistaken. At the pre-employment stage, failing a polygraph will in fact result in denial of both a security clearance and employment. And for those who are already employed, failing a polygraph can in fact result in the clearance being revoked (although by regulation it's not supposed to). This happened to former DIA employee John M., who has shared his Kafkaesque experience here in the message thread, "DIA's Insider Threat Program."

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quickfix Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 371 Joined: Jan 15^th, 2006	Re: In 2023 - ClearanceJobs.com Admitted the Polygraph is Just For Getting Confessions . . . Reply #2 - Apr 17^th, 2024 at 7:09pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Looks like John M. has crashed and burned per attached decision.

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