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Feb 2nd, 2019 at 4:19am
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Hello, 

I'm sorry that this question is going to be a long-winded, repetitive one. But it is genuine. 

To start, I've been familiar with the lacking legitimacy of the poly for years now. The science behind it seemed faulty (the evidence against it strong) and I vowed to never take one. 

Fast forward to now, with me attempting to win the career lottery, I find myself face-to-face with the dreaded polygraph I hoped never to be subjected to.

Let's assume I'm an upstanding citizen who has been an asset to society and hasn't done anything which would eliminate me from this job pool. 

My natural instinct is to go into the poly, be truthful and hope for the best. But, reading and stats tell me that everyone else probably did the same thing (60-80% failure rate). I need to know for someone who doesn't easily get nervous, shame or anger, etc. is that going to be a good thing or a problem during this interrogation? Assuming that the only things that I did wrong are already on my application, minor and easy to take responsibility for being that they were when I was well under the age.   

I do not have a sensitive physiological response to: lying, telling the truth, shame or fear. I maintain the same breathing pattern and heart rate. I don't sweat from being nervous.  In essence, I don't feel much of anything (not in the way a sociopath might not feel anything..I prefer to think of myself as just extremely zen) in turns of bodily reaction to things like guilt. 

The machine doesn't scare me, it's the human bias behind it that could be a problem.  I acknowledge that this entire process is flawed and I understand I'm playing their game....but I need to try.

Basically, I'm trying to decide whether it would be best to be 100% truthful and not think about it, or be 'proactive' and try to elevate heart rate as much as possible with the control questions via visualization. (Though there's always the chance I could misinterpret a relevant question as a control question and auto fail.)

I consider myself a good person, but I'm not someone who feels guilt over having to do what's necessary to not be taken advantage of.  Whether or not I pass I still plan on mailing my representatives regarding the use of the polygraph. Political activism is a strong point of mine, and I exercise it regularly. 

I've been reading the book but not finished yet. How are the 30-40% able to pass? 


And my final question: Do they use your application, BI, or both in the poly?

Thank you


P.S  I hope none of that came across as bragging. I am no genius, this is just the way I am. Feeling nothing is not something anyone should want.
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Re: Need Advice on Upcoming Polygraph
Reply #1 - Feb 3rd, 2019 at 12:19pm
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SplishySploshy wrote on Feb 2nd, 2019 at 4:19am:
I need to know for someone who doesn't easily get nervous, shame or anger, etc. is that going to be a good thing or a problem during this interrogation? Assuming that the only things that I did wrong are already on my application, minor and easy to take responsibility for being that they were when I was well under the age.


There is no research of any kind on this question.   

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I've been reading the book but not finished yet. How are the 30-40% able to pass?


Some are lucky. Some use countermeasures. None make disqualifying admissions.

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And my final question: Do they use your application, BI, or both in the poly?


Information from one's application and background investigation (if conducted before the polygraph) may be available to the polygraph operator beforehand. However, it seems that for pre-employment polygraph screening, operators usually spend little or no time reviewing the applicant's file before the polygraph session actually begins.
  

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Re: Need Advice on Upcoming Polygraph
Reply #2 - Feb 4th, 2019 at 3:22am
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Thank you for answering, I do appreciate the help. 


  
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