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Attention: APA-Certified PCSOT Forensic Psycho-Physiologists -- Rate This PLCQ Maintenance "Test"

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Dan Mangan God Member Offline Posts: 652 Joined: Jul 31^st, 2014	Attention: APA-Certified PCSOT Forensic Psycho-Physiologists -- Rate This PLCQ Maintenance "Test" May 4^th, 2017 at 1:05am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	1. Is your last name Doe? (YES) 2. Will you tell the truth on this test? (YES) 3C. Since being at [treatment center name], have you lied to [therapist] about anything we haven't covered? (NO) 4R. Since being at [treatment center name], have you had any sexual contact that you're hiding? (NO) 5C. Since being at [treatment center name], have you had any deviant sexual thoughts that you haven't reported? (NO) 6R. Since being at [treatment center name], have you used any social media that you're concealing? (NO) 7C. Since being at [treatment center name], have you lied to probation about anything that we haven't covered? (NO) 8R. Since being at [treatment center name], have you deliberately accessed X-rated material that you're concealing? (NO)


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Dan Mangan God Member Offline Posts: 652 Joined: Jul 31^st, 2014	Re: Attention: APA-Certified PCSOT Forensic Psycho-Physiologists -- Rate This PLCQ Maintenance "Test" Reply #1 - May 5^th, 2017 at 12:30am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	What, no takers? I am shocked, appalled and dismayed. Look closely at the CQs, then explain what's wrong with this picture.


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Ex Member God Member Offline Posts: 710 Joined: Dec 9^th, 2012	Re: Attention: APA-Certified PCSOT Forensic Psycho-Physiologists -- Rate This PLCQ Maintenance "Test" Reply #2 - May 5^th, 2017 at 1:39am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	They should be exclusionary when presented before the RQ's.


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Dan Mangan God Member Offline Posts: 652 Joined: Jul 31^st, 2014	Re: Attention: APA-Certified PCSOT Forensic Psycho-Physiologists -- Rate This PLCQ Maintenance "Test" Reply #3 - May 5^th, 2017 at 3:00am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Let's humor the peanut gallery, Ark, especially the polygraph apologist lurkers out there. Again, this is a probable-lie PCSOT maintenance "test." If the SO is responding favorably to treatment -- to include being honest with everyone in the so-called treatment triangle -- why exactly do these particular inclusive CQs comprise a fatal flaw with this "test"? What is the inherent danger of using those CQs on a treatment-amenable SO who is telling the truth? Spell it out for the folks at home.


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Ex Member God Member Offline Posts: 710 Joined: Dec 9^th, 2012	Re: Attention: APA-Certified PCSOT Forensic Psycho-Physiologists -- Rate This PLCQ Maintenance "Test" Reply #4 - May 5^th, 2017 at 3:39am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	I'm not privy to what is actually taught at a PCSOT course. In my opinion, by using inclusionary CQ's of this nature, an SO would most likely perceive them as RQ's. For example, accessing porn and lying to probation, could be equally salient for someone under the gun.


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Joe McCarthy God Member Offline Tiocfaidh ár lá Posts: 526 Location: The Shroud of The Foggy Dew Joined: Mar 25^th, 2008 Gender:	Re: Attention: APA-Certified PCSOT Forensic Psycho-Physiologists -- Rate This PLCQ Maintenance "Test" Reply #10 - May 25^th, 2017 at 11:20pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	I'm having a real issue with C5

	Joe
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Dan Mangan God Member Offline Posts: 652 Joined: Jul 31^st, 2014	Re: Attention: APA-Certified PCSOT Forensic Psycho-Physiologists -- Rate This PLCQ Maintenance "Test" Reply #7 - May 6^th, 2017 at 2:47am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Ark, in the real world, the scenario I described would likely push toward a *false-positive* "test" result. Why is that, you ask? Because the convicted SO is already sensitized to the issues surrounding the RQs. With such weak PLCQs presented to the honest, truthful and compliant subject, chances of passing are slim. But happily for the "forensic psycho-physiologist" who runs this kind of bastardized and twisted CF, the checks keep clearing. You see, Ark, in the PCSOT world, accountability is sparse. That's why such abuse is so rampant. Should anyone be surprised? Joe McCarthy has been sounding the alarm for years, but no one wants to upset the apple cart. Why do you think that is?


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Dan Mangan God Member Offline Posts: 652 Joined: Jul 31^st, 2014	Re: Attention: APA-Certified PCSOT Forensic Psycho-Physiologists -- Rate This PLCQ Maintenance "Test" Reply #9 - May 7^th, 2017 at 2:34am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Ark, this "Midnight Express" polygraph-abuse revelation train could very well be gaining steam -- and sooner rather than later. Imagine the shitstorm that will ensue if it is shown that the faulty PCSOT "test" that I described has been routinely used in an institutional -- and allegedly therapeutic -- setting on juvenile SOs. If what I've been told is true, woe betide the "certified forensic psycho-physiologists" responsible for such abuse -- and the institutional decision makers who allow such "testing" to be conducted.


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