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Reply #210 - Jan 26th, 2018 at 7:37pm
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Quickfix is just like all other serial abusers, they need victims.  I put him in the same category as Larry Nassar.  Could someone really be that cruel?  It’s probably more likely a personality trait – one that attracts people to the polygraph career path.  His taunts and harassment to victims of this abuse are sickening.  I feel sorry for those who have to live with an asshole like that.  Come to think of it, this is the same type of abusive treatment that they used against me in the polygraph chair – five times in three years.  Is this the sort of thing that is taught in polygraph school, or is it learned via OJT?

The worst part is that approved and relevant regulations were created to ensure that this type of thing doesn’t happen.  Senior officials have been deceived into thinking that it is okay to take unfavorable administrative actions against an otherwise innocent individual - based solely on the polygraph “results”.  The polygraph lobby has done considerable damage to our individual rights in Washington, and the Insider Threat Program’s hunt for the next Snowden has gone Deep State.

Maybe Jeffrey Gregory did “fail” his polygraph, but because of that, the investigators did their job and investigated him.  That’s where they got the evidence to convict him.

Sure enough, DoD has the same policy – if someone “fails”, the Head of the DoD Component may initiate a CI investigation in accordance with DoD policy.  Guess what?  They did an investigation on me and there wasn’t a single finding.  In fact, I was granted no restrictions to access, or clearance by the DIA Central Adjudication Facility as a result of that CI investigation.

DIA gives tens of thousands of polygraphs a year to their employees. If the business is to catch spies, brother business must be good.  One minor problem though, if they admit to a failure rate of 18-23%, where are all the other victims?  I’ve been on this site for almost a year now, and I haven’t seen anyone else say that they were punished solely on the polygraph “results”.  I believe that I was sacrificed to perpetuate the lie.

Consider this, since the regulations mandate that no unfavorable actions shall be taken against an otherwise innocent individual, why administer it at all?  If this simple truth gets out, it will severely damage the polygraph industry and affect the way people approach their next appointment with the polygraph!

It’s coming Wandersmann, there will be an awakening soon and those complicit will indeed be sorry, just like Larry Nassar.  Help me to mount a persistent media campaign.  #stoppolygraphabuse is a good start.  It may take the Supreme Court to eventually decide this, but I’m willing to go there.
  

"The polygraph examination is a supplement to, not a substitute for, other methods of investigation.  No, unfavorable administrative action shall be taken based solely on its results."  ~ DODI 5210.91.
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Re: DIA's Insider Threat Program
Reply #211 - Jan 26th, 2018 at 7:38pm
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Any credible claim that the polygraph "caught" a spy would require that it correctly identified someone as being a spy absent any prior suspicion. The Gregory case does not meet that threshold.

That polygraphy has no scientific basis is not a "defense." It is a statement of fact.
  

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Reply #212 - Jan 26th, 2018 at 8:23pm
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John M. wrote on Jan 26th, 2018 at 7:37pm:
In fact, I was granted no restrictions to access, or clearance by the DIA Central Adjudication Facility as a result of that CI investigation.


Then what are you doing here?  Oh, that's right, you tried to swindle the government out of disability money for a phony PTSD claim (the big bad powygwaph man was mean to me!)

John M. wrote on Jan 26th, 2018 at 7:37pm:
It’s coming Wandersmann, there will be an awakening soon and those complicit will indeed be sorry


Just like on planet Vulcan according to Mr Spock.John M. wrote on Jan 26th, 2018 at 7:37pm:
It may take the Supreme Court to eventually decide this, but I’m willing to go there.


Get on the BW Parkway and head north.  You can't miss it.  And bring "Xenonman" with you!

  
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Reply #213 - Jan 26th, 2018 at 9:28pm
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George, you should know by now that facts and truths don't matter to him.  He's more interested in perpetuating the lie.

Once again dickfix, you don't know what you're talking about.  I am receiving disability benefits.

I am on here to do everything I can to help expose this fraud on the American people. It is unconscionable abuse and a waste of taxpayer dollars.  Not to mention, a national disgrace - seriously.

Did they have twitter on star trek?
  

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Reply #214 - Jan 27th, 2018 at 7:28pm
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quickfix wrote on Jan 26th, 2018 at 8:23pm:
Get on the BW Parkway and head north.  You can't miss it.  And bring "Xenonman" with you!


Don't let him get to you John M.  He is a parasite, like all polygraph examiners (with some exceptions like Dan Mangum and Joe the Irishman[forgot his last name]).  It took awhile for witch burning to come to an end, it will take a while for this BS to come to an end.  Someday Dickfix and his polygraph colleagues will realize their entire adult life was centered around a complete fraud.  Carnival workers contribute more to our society than these Nazi's.   Wink
  
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Reply #215 - Jan 29th, 2018 at 2:52pm
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Wandersmann wrote on Jan 27th, 2018 at 7:28pm:
Someday [quickfix] and his polygraph colleagues will realize their entire adult life was centered around a complete fraud.

I think he realizes it now. quickfix does not present arguments that the polygraph has ever exposed a spy, criminal, or liar of any stripe. He simply repeats the known fact that there is no cogent defense against a polygraph-based accusation.

quickfix is well aware that the "lie detector" is a complete fraud that ruins careers and deprives employers of valuable talent. He just likes to get his nut off by coming here and crowing about getting away with it.
  
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Reply #216 - Jan 31st, 2018 at 3:38am
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Aunty Agony wrote on Jan 29th, 2018 at 2:52pm:
quickfix is well aware that the "lie detector" is a complete fraud that ruins careers and deprives employers of valuable talent. He just likes to get his nut off by coming here and crowing about getting away with it.


Love your posts Aunty!  You are always spot on and more eloquent than I could ever dream of being.  I've noticed Quickfix never responds to you because  he knows you would own him.   Cheesy
  
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Reply #217 - Jan 31st, 2018 at 3:42am
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Aunty Agony wrote on Jan 29th, 2018 at 2:52pm:
there is no cogent defense against a polygraph-based accusation.


Just like there is no way to respond with a "yes" or "no" to the question, "have you stopped beating your wife?"  These conniving polygraph low-lifes have hit the jackpot with the polygraph.  Only the devil himself could have dreamed something like this up.  Of course there are always plenty of dirtbags willing to sell their souls to make a buck.   
  
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Reply #218 - Jan 31st, 2018 at 11:33pm
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Aunty Agony wrote on Jan 29th, 2018 at 2:52pm:
coming here and crowing about getting away with it

How can this be allowed to happen?

Violating approved and relevant higher command is an abuse of authority.  Why is it that no one will/can hold them accountable?  Attached is DODI 5210.91 and DIAI 5200.002 side by side.  Look at paragraph g on the left, and compare it to 4.22 on the right.  BTW, Encl 4 deals with INITIAL eligibility and allows them to temporarily suspend access, based on a WRITTEN FINDING.  Such temporary suspension may not form the part of any basis for an for an adverse administrative action or adverse personnel action.

It also goes on to say that the individual shall be advised in writing of the determination, that the determination may be appealed to the Head of the relevant DoD Component, and that his or her final determination is conclusive.

I appealed and they blew me off.  Everyone points the finger at each other and they get away with it.  The corruption within the DIA Office of Security is appalling and their deal with the polygraph industry devil is pernicious.

I like what Trey Gowdy said today - comparing politics and law.  It's because of politics that the government is allowed to violate our individual rights.  If rules and laws were enforced, they'd see right through this fraud, waste and abuse.

I remember last year when Wandersmann was pinning his hopes on Mr. Gowdy.  I just hope he didn't take any blood money from the polygraph cabal.

  

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Reply #219 - Feb 2nd, 2018 at 4:21am
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Wandersmann wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 3:38am:
I've noticed Quickfix never responds to you because  he knows you would own him.

quickfix does not usually respond to me because I usually attack him ad hominem rather than on the merits of his position. This, in turn, is of course because he rarely takes a position.

The true tragedy of evil in us is the corruption of the good in us. On the occasion when quickfix argues an issue he is quite capable of defending his opinions. Sadly such occasions are rare.
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Reply #220 - Feb 11th, 2018 at 10:48pm
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This is how they do it.  The lying bastards lie right to their face.

In remembrance for all who have fought against this instrument of tyranny known as the polygraph machine, I have some memos of my own that I will soon be authorizing for release.

Don't worry, they aren't classified. They do however, incriminate several high-level officials of lying under oath and perjuring themselves.  I suspect though, just like the current memos, they'll only serve to embarrass the offenders. (It's not like anyone can hold them accountable or anything.)


  

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