Once again, John M. chooses to parrot his own version of 5210.91 and ignore Sections 6 and 7 of Enclosure 4.  Which is why he's now likely greeting customers at Wal-Mart.

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I will post as often as I want.  You don't like it, come after me with your crappity smacking lawyers and your judges!!!5210.91 Enclosure 4 Section 6 and 7 does apply.  You just wish it didn't.  Now everyone knows you are a national security risk.

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I'm pretty certain that George (if you are referring to the Moderator of AP) is not "quickfix"!   

I wish that I had had the benefit of this most revealing thread back when I was wasting time with IC applications.   It's people like Mr. Q who are the ones  whom are making the personnel decisions throughout the IC. These are the troglodytes who conduct and "interpret" the polygraph, and conduct and misinterpret the BI's. It is they who control the access to the various gates to the IC. It's certainly not the IC recruiters, who are probably kept wholly in the dark by their respective Offices of Security, thus enabling recruiters to make false promises, and even to initiate contact with prospective applicants whom people like "Q" have already determined to have "improper"  backgrounds.

The present thread has been most revealing for me about the blind cave salamanders who really run the IC.  "Q"  has trashed me extensively over at "federalsoup", the online forum for federal employees seeking to raise their "GS" levels. 

In that regard, those at the CIA already have the unique advantage of being two full GS grades above federal employees at other agencies with similar qualifications and education levels!

I think we have to realize that folks like "Q" honestly believe that, in controlling the IC's personnel selection processes, they are final line of national defense that keeps Kim Jong-Un's navy from sailing up the Columbia to Portland, or Raul Castro's Cuban Revolutionary Navy from shelling Fort Lauderdale.

Had I had the benefit of this thread 30 or 40 years ago, I might have better grasped the reasons for such agencies as the CIA or DMA (one of the many predecessors to the NGIA)  and their personnel policies being as f*cked up as they are!

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He's also very active over at the IC boards on "federalsoup"! 

quickfix wrote on Apr 7^th, 2017 at 7:35pm:


Fortunately that isn't too often!   

To tell you the truth, it’s really tiring to watch you try to justify this abuse.  Why can’t you just be honest with yourself and admit you’re wrong.   

Here again, you point to another item in the regulation that has nothing to do with taking unfavorable administrative actions based solely on the polygraph “results.”

The passage you refer to simply states what the PSS is used for – to ASSIST in determining an individual’s eligibility for sensitive duties of positions.”  Like I have repeated over and over throughout this thread, the polygraph is a supplement to, not a substitute for other methods of investigation, NO UNFAVORABLE ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIONS shall be taken based solely on the “results.”

Why is this simple concept so difficult for you to understand?  Is it because you’re being exposed and now your job is threatened?

Let’s be clear here - there are many reasons why an individual might produce false positives on a polygraph test.  Your statement that I am a national security risk because I failed 5 polygraph tests is astonishing and an example of everything that is wrong with the process.  People like you have no shame – and are more likely to pass a polygraph with flying colors.

My advice, spread the word and stop this abuse now.

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Yes, it's astonishing- that you were retested that many times.  Most agencies would have removed you from access after not passing twice.

quickfix wrote on Apr 7^th, 2017 at 6:13pm:


What a sick mind.  He thinks ruining people's lives is funny.  You are the national security risk Quickfix.  You falsely accuse innocent people and exonerate guilty people.  This stupid polygraph, proven inaccurate, has replaced time tested investigative procedures and has put Americans at risk......all for power and money for people not good enough to be real investigators.  

Imagine being a self-sacrificing patriot for 30 years earning an honest reputation and having it all erased in one afternoon by being falsely labeled a risk to national security.  Imagine knowing you offered to give your life for your country and you went in harms way only to be labeled a risk to national security by the traitors in our security departments.  Think of Audie Murphy being labeled a risk to national security after two medals of honor if he had gone on to work for one of today's 3-letter agencies and then flunking a polygraph.   

The polygraph community and leadership of the intelligence and security agencies that supports current polygraph policy are parasites, nothing more.  Guys like Quickfix think that because they currently have the blessing of a corrupt Congress whose palms are being greased by the polygraph lobby they are justified.  Kim Jong Un thinks the same way.