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How much polygraph information do agencies from different states share with each other?
Feb 5th, 2016 at 10:45pm
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I took a polygraph 3-4 years ago at a department on the East coast, and am going through the process with a department on the West coast. During my polygraph a few years back, I essentially ended up confessing to things that I didn't do [stupidly] thinking that it would relax me somehow/put me at ease. This polygraph was audio and video recorded. I ended up failing this poly anyways. 

This time around, I'm not mentioning the things that I confessed to at my first polygraph. What I'm wondering is, will my background investigator have access to my audio/tape recordings from my first poly? Will they have access to examiners notes? Or do they just see a pass/fail?

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Reply #1 - Feb 6th, 2016 at 2:37pm
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During my polygraph a few years back, I essentially ended up confessing to things that I didn't do [stupidly] thinking that it would relax me somehow/put me at ease.


Yeah, right.  Confessing to something I didn't do always relaxes me too.  Your statement is what is called rationalization.  It's bullshit.  You were deceptive because you were lying and then you weren't totally forthcoming.  It doesn't matter whether the next department knows or doesn't know.  If you are not completely truthful, the results will be the same.
  
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Reply #2 - Feb 6th, 2016 at 5:58pm
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Yeah, right.  Confessing to something I didn't do always relaxes me too.  Your statement is what is called rationalization.  It's bullshit.


You have no way of knowing that anything g67hjiokhh posted is untrue.

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It doesn't matter whether the next department knows or doesn't know.  If you are not completely truthful, the results will be the same.


Nonsense. Polygraphy has no scientific basis, and polygraph outcomes have little relation to whether one has or has not spoken the truth.
  

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Reply #3 - Feb 6th, 2016 at 6:01pm
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What I'm wondering is, will my background investigator have access to my audio/tape recordings from my first poly? Will they have access to examiners notes? Or do they just see a pass/fail?


Probably not. Some non-federal law enforcement agencies do have information sharing agreements, but my understanding is that such arrangements tend to be regional, and not nationwide.
  

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Reply #4 - Feb 6th, 2016 at 7:10pm
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I essentially ended up confessing to things that I didn't do [stupidly] thinking that it would relax me somehow/put me at ease.

Honestly, absent some kind of torture, I cannot see myself doing such a thing.
  
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Reply #5 - Feb 7th, 2016 at 9:45pm
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Honestly, absent some kind of torture, I cannot see myself doing such a thing.


It is torture.  Being told you're entire future rides on passing this bull shit test after being falsely accused of doing something you didn't do.
  
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Reply #6 - May 8th, 2016 at 1:04am
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"Probably not. Some non-federal law enforcement agencies do have information sharing agreements, but my understanding is that such arrangements tend to be regional, and not nationwide."

And this applies even if someone signs a waiver allowing them to view polygraph results?
  
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Reply #7 - May 8th, 2016 at 1:40am
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I was accused by the CIA polygraphers and adjudicators have committing major crimes and they basically continued interrogating me until I confessed to those things which I didn't do. Twisted animals.
  
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Reply #8 - May 8th, 2016 at 2:10am
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I was accused by the CIA polygraphers and adjudicators have committing major crimes and they basically continued interrogating me until I confessed to those things which I didn't do. Twisted animals.

You realized you could terminate the interrogation at any time and the CIA polygraphers and adjudicators would have no further recourse, right? Aunty has a bit of difficulty understanding how someone could be idiotic enough to make false confessions to major crimes rather than, oh, I dunno, getting up and walking out of the room.

I honestly cannot decide who to despise more, the malicious polygraphers or their witless victims.
  
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