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Reply #15 - Apr 28th, 2015 at 11:28pm
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fupolys wrote on Apr 16th, 2015 at 6:34am:
I dont have any condition's against using the internet, I havent been scheduled for a new Poly yet, Yes now that Im a abit more educated on Polys now, I would like to see that charts, seems like any polygrapher could say, looks like you failed this questions, let me add a bunch of numbers together and show you. woah it adds up to 9's!
Lets see what the software says now, whoops, and show you the screen, that says deceptive, I mean wouldn't that stuff be easy to bluff? He also only ran 2 charts he could use, Dont they need to run three charts?
Finally and this is the kicker, He was my polygrapher when I used my defense lawyer, when I got a inconclusive.
The same polygrapher told the therapist, I had taken the before!
I think he  possibly broke his attorney client privilege. I confronted the Therapist about that. She said I signed some releases, I dont think, I remember one waiving attorney client privilege. Im waiting to hear back from my lawyer, I definitely want another polygrapher next time, if needed. If you PM me ill give you the polygraphers name to anyone interested. Thanks


As far as if he broke A/C privilege, I can't speak to that as I am not an attorney.  I can say that I have been in the same situation as an examiner in the past, and I have never talked with a therapist or a PO about tests done under privilege even if there is a waiver from the therapist or CSCD unless the attorney who paid for the test releases the information as well.  That is just CYA.

As far as the examiner running two charts; two charts minimum is all that is needed to render an opinion in the State of Texas.  Three charts is strongly recommended and prudent.  I will say that sometimes, that third chart won't make all that much a difference if you mathematically overwhelmingly failed in the first two charts. 

The computer algorithms are a nice tool, but sometimes not entirely as accurate as we would like them to be.  It's the handscore that is the deciding factor.  If the computer matched the handscore, bonus. 

Now, if you are with Tarrant County CSCD, ask your PO for the "approved polygraph examiners list."  You have a right (or you once had a right) to choose an examiner from that list.  If they tell you no such list exists, they are lying to you.

It is also important to point out that JPCOT is not law in Texas, they are as TAPE and the State of Texas points out, "guidelines." The JPCOT Guidelines only have teeth to the people who follow the guidelines.  Having said that, JPCOT regulates the sex offender polygraph industry in the State of Texas.  This is problematic to say the least, because JPCOT has no licensing authority.

Bottom line, if you knew the truth about how all this really runs, you'll wish you had picked prison.

Oh and if you're African American, I would be very concerned about being treated fairly by some examiners in Texas.  But that is a discussion for another time.
  

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Reply #16 - Apr 28th, 2015 at 11:36pm
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Oh, one last thing.  The examiner you used is a good man so far as I know.  I have never heard of anything wrong of unethical come from that direction.

He is not one of the examiners I have on my "do not trust list."  I have always had the impression that is was a straight shooter.  As far as I know, he is someone who is square in his actions.

That is only my take of him though.  I know you don't like him very much right now; but I will stand up for people I have known to do the right thing in the past just as soon as I will stand against those who are wrong.
  

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Reply #17 - Apr 29th, 2015 at 3:45am
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Thanks, For the Info Joe, and can respect you opinion of the man, Im just trying to educate myself and not be played. You saying his trustworthy makes me feel somewhat better if he tests me again, but at the this point with the A/C. He might not even test me? Idk

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Reply #18 - Apr 29th, 2015 at 6:58pm
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It's a difficult system to navigate.  Only one person makes the final decision in regard to navigating it successfully; you.  Having said that, there are some who have a vested interest in setting you up for failure, like anything in this world.  You need to be aware of these kinds of people and combat them properly.

Your biggest enemy you have non compliance with terms and conditions; only you make that decision.  I wish you the best of luck in it.  Having said that, DTA and CYA

And yea, again, the examiner in question is a good guy. I've never heard of one bad thing coming out of his office.
  

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