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What exactly did your attorney mean by that?  lol

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Yes, the fact that the CIA is a law unto itself is very much to your benefit when applying to other federal agencies, since the Agency doesn't give a damn about what other "three-letter" bodies you contact.

Actually moving from the DC area isn't that bad an idea at all.   It will be so much less expensive elsewhere, and you'll avoid having to travel long distances in interminable traffic over the Beltway or I-66 to get anywhere!
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Of course, how would you ever know if it was in fact the polygraph that disqualified you?  It might have just been some nasty gossip gleaned during the BI from a coworker at some part-time job that you might have held back when you were in high school or college.  Don't forget that nasty comments are inevitably weighed far more  heavily than positive ones, and that information from "developed" informants (ones that you didn't list or authorize as references) is considered much more credible than anything that your listed references might have to say.

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Correct, and the visitors to Langley will have to get an "escort required" badge.

I'm of course aware that Agency scum generally hide behind Foreign Service cover.  I was surprised to learn of the fact that the Agency will disclose the identity of their employees to Foreign Service classes. 

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Are you ptrck, the OP?

You can get into another agency with a clearance denial on record.  I know, because I have done it.  Literally just a few years after the first denial based on the polygraph, I was TS/SCI cleared into another agency.  I had no serious issues on records other than false accusations on a polygraph, which was not a concern to my new agency who did not even administer polygraphs themselves.  Just apply to other jobs and go for it, but do not expect to ever get into the CIA, or any other agency where  you failed the polygraph before, even if 10 years have passed.  I know, I am speaking from experience.  You are blacklisted for life from that agency.  By the way, I have since quit government service to do my own thing.

Regarding the appeal, those are just legal formalities to make you feel better.  Most appeals are denied, and the process drags on for so long that most applicants give up or move on, and don't care to spend the money.  That is the goal of these agencies.  It is rare to beat the U.S. federal government in court.  VERY RARE.   

I personally have gone from patriot to rogue.  I am sick of the government control and security clearance bullshit.  I have moved on with my life and will never again give a shit about U.S. government employment.  With my background, computer hacking, there is tons of money to be made and services to provide around the world without sitting on some limited GS payscale and worrying about my clearance all the time.  Criminals and malicious foreign governments will pay me more than the U.S. government ever will, and I know how to hide my tracks and money to avoid law enforcement coming down on me.  Besides, I am out of country anyway.  I can get paid from my laptop in any random part of the world. I'd much rather fuck foreign girls, do some drugs, break some laws, not report anything, and live a wild life until I die.  The U.S. government can die slow for all I care.  I respect Snowden, Wikileaks, Anonymous, and other anti-government people. 

Life is short.  Fuck tyranny, oppression, and government control.  Be free, get paid, and grab your balls when you do so Uncle Sam can know the meaning of fuck you.

Peety....nope not those guys.  Like you I'd much rather make my money else where and when you complete morons like Dumps family getting clearances at the drop of a hat you know the system is a rigged one.   More power to you...I'd rather fuck foreign girls as well and live life!  Wish I was out of the country!!

just_me_again wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2019 at 10:31am:


I recommend you be careful. If the government perceives you as a threat, they will find some way to bring you down.