quickfix wrote on Jul 23
rd, 2015 at 7:38pm:
To suggest we enjoy "ruining" someone's career is utter nonsense
Lots of Ad Hominem attacks to my post, but no real comprehension or substantive refuting of anything I said. Whether you enjoy "ruining" a person's career or not is irrelevant. I might be mistaken, but haven't you joked about ruining people in the past on this forum Quickfix ? I had the impression you enjoyed it. Whether you enjoy it or not, I'm glad you tacitly admitted you are, in fact, ruining people. Thank you. I rest my case.
Pailryder, regarding your Ad Hominem response, I'm glad you think Orwellian torture is funny. Do you think that someone losing their livelihood and having a nervous breakdown due to the polygraph is not Orwellian torture ? Do you know what the term Orwellian torture means ? I'll tell you where I came up with the Dachau statement. It just popped into my head when you said polygraph examiners were "good" people. I recall reading a speech that Heinrich Himmler once gave when he said, and I paraphrase after translation , something to the effect of, "it is impressive that we can do such terrible things and still remain such good people."
I don't need to join my friend on the delivery truck and my 8 times on the polygraph over a 20 year period (obviously I must have passed) are behind me. I have several friends, however, who are going through hell and I feel for them. My motivation for continuing an interest in this topic involves following my oath of office and duty to my country. I am also proud of my service and my agency and believe that the current polygraph abuse is a stain on the honor of our sacred law enforcement and military institutions. I don't blame polygraph examiners as much as I blame our poor leadership for allowing the polygraph to be a panacea of truth. I know a Vietnam Silver Star recipient who became a polygraph examiner and then quit when he realized that he was hurting innocent people. He had honor. He would have continued as a polygraph examiner if he was allowed to just use it as a tool.
Lastly, to those of you in the polygraph community who are laughing at me, as Quickfix suggests, I would be happy to share notes about the difference between a complicated month/year long investigation conducted in accordance with due process and culminating in a trial versus a several hour interview followed by an "interpretation" of a biological reading with final innocence or guilt determined by a kangaroo court staffed by members of the same "private club".