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Reply #15 - Nov 14th, 2013 at 10:05pm
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Thanks for your response Doug. I appreciate your candor and your work. Can give an estimate of how many people purchased your book last year, and also over the last 10-15 years? Thank you.
  
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Reply #16 - Nov 14th, 2013 at 10:39pm
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quickfix wrote on Nov 14th, 2013 at 10:02pm:
Doug, interesting that you completely ignored my allegation that your contention of having conducted 30,000+ exams in your "career" is bullshit.  Obviously you didn't, so you ignore it and maybe it'll go away.

You will not see any post of mine referring to a polygraph instrument as a "lie detector";  there is no such thing.  It is a diagnostic tool used to monitor and record changes in physiology to applied stimuli.

Nervous reactions= deception?   Show us all where I've said that on this website.  You can't, any more than you can show that I've ever said polygraph is 100% accurate, which it is not.  No reputable polygraph school teaches that "nervous reactions equals deception".  It just goes to show how poor your own training was.  You're a relic of the past, long since forgotten, like the old Soviet Union.  But please keep selling your wares, so we can keep catching the imbeciles who try to use your "tried and true" CM methods.



I should know better, but here goes - I never said I ran 30,000 tests - and you can't present an argument for the use of the polygraph as a "lie detector" so it is a waste of time to respond to you.  But I thank you - at least you haven't forgotten me.  And if you and your cohorts are so good at "catching" people who use my techniques, why go to so much trouble getting their names?   Wink
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Reply #17 - Nov 14th, 2013 at 10:44pm
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Thanks for your response Doug. I appreciate your candor and your work. Can give an estimate of how many people purchased your book last year, and also over the last 10-15 years? Thank you.



NO & NO!  But good try Mr. Paranoid Polygrapher!   Grin
  

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Reply #18 - Nov 15th, 2013 at 1:45am
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Just to let folks know, I used information from Doug Williams (though I never personally saw Doug) and from George Maschke's TLBTLD and I was able to LIE AND BEAT MY POLYGRAPH.  That's right.  I used the mental countermeasures where I would do arithmetic in my head (or think about an exciting sports event, or some good dirty porn) to generate responses on the questions that were not relevant.  Simple.  I was also very calm and respectful and told the polygrapher that I had no intent of using countermeasures and that I had nothing to hide.  I didn't even crack under their silly interrogation procedure.

I used CMs and passed, and got hired.  This was for a 3-letter agency.  I was not caught in any of these Operation Lie Buster stings or anything.  I know many other people who have lied and used CMs and passed as well.  We joke about the whole process and the pussies who fall for it and start telling all of their business, things the polygrapher would have never found out about in the first place. The fact is, mental countermeasures are not detectable because you can't read someone's brain. lol.  You may be able to detect breathing anomalies by the pneumatic tubes on the machine, or tongue biting if you watch closely, or butt-squeezing with the seat sensor that is now used....but mental countermeasures work great and are undetectable. 

Thank you Doug and George.

By the way George, since you are only the "Co-Founder" of this site, who is/are the other Co-Founder(s)?  I never hear their named mentioned around these parks, what has become of them?  And who is Gino J. Scalabrini, the other author on TLBTLD?
  
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Reply #19 - Nov 15th, 2013 at 3:27am
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quickfix wrote on Nov 14th, 2013 at 10:02pm:
so we can keep catching the imbeciles who try to use your "tried and true" CM methods. 

Quickfix, previously you faded away when confronted with the countermeasure challenge. You may indeed be able to catch 'imbeciles' who try crude and unrefined attempts, but a properly executed countermeasure is impossible to detect. This is the reason the overreaching Operation Lie Buster even exists.
  
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Reply #20 - Nov 15th, 2013 at 5:35am
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By the way George, since you are only the "Co-Founder" of this site, who is/are the other Co-Founder(s)?I never hear their named mentioned around these parks, what has become of them?And who is Gino J. Scalabrini, the other author on TLBTLD?


Gino Scalabrini is the other co-founder of AntiPolygraph.org. He's alive and well, but I'm taking care of site updates and answering the mail lately.
  

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Reply #21 - Nov 15th, 2013 at 5:53am
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U.S. Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK) expressed concern about the circulation of the polygraph watch list in a hearing yesterday, citing Marisa Taylor's reporting on it (at 1:23:00):

http://c-spanvideo.org/program/CyberThrea

Marisa Taylor reports on Coburn's remarks here:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/11/14/208615/crackdown-that-shared-americans.htm...
  

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Reply #22 - Nov 16th, 2013 at 1:30pm
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quickfix wrote on Nov 14th, 2013 at 10:02pm:
You're a relic of the past, long since forgotten, like the old Soviet Union.But please keep selling your wares, so we can keep catching the imbeciles who try to use your "tried and true" CM methods.


Quickfix,

The fact that the U.S. government has made Doug Williams the target of an ongoing criminal investigation for teaching people how to pass a polygraph "test" is incontrovertible proof that he hasn't been forgotten. Certainly not by the federal polygraph community. Moreover, the fact that our government felt the need to target Doug (and identify his customers) seriously undermines the polygraph community's claim that it can detect the polygraph passing techniques that he teaches.
  

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