In my pre test interrogation on polygraph number 2(took one the day before with the same department and failed, as a result had to take another one the next morning) the polygraph examiner(ass hole) kept asking me if there was anything that i have done that if revealed would embarrass the police department, and i told him no several times.. i really couldn't think of anything even after he asked me 10 times. He then proceeded to ask me more direct questions about things that would be considered embarrassing that maybe i hadn't of thought of..well he was right. It turned sexual and asked me if I had ever masturbated..and if so have i ever done it anywhere other then my home. I honestly before this point never thought about it and didn't lie or conceal anything and as soon as i realized i had done what he asked i was completely truthful. Naive me thinking the polygraph could really tell if i was lying told him the truth that I have on a few occasions in my life masturbated in bathroom stall away from home(this was before i read the lie behind the lie detector). The bastard made me write a confession and sign it and immediately canceled the polygraph and sent me home(230 miles away) and told me my background investigator would have to have a meeting with some other high ups to determine what they were going to do. Need i mention i was supposedly 2 weeks away from starting the police academy..any thought if that is REALLY disqualifying? 

and P.S. i had taken a polygraph for the first time like 6 months before this one, and my polygraph examiner called my last one and knew every detail of my last one(inconclusive) and used it against me the entire time. That can't be legal.... 

Sounds like you are F'd!

Figs, 

It is not my logic.  It is policy in most departments.  Masturbating in public restrooms and viewing porn FETISHES may suggest other patterns of behavior that are not acceptable.  Why take a chance?  That is the logic used in making a DQ decision.   

It may not be "fair" or "justified" in your personal opinion, but it is what it is.  Again, it is not my decision, it is a decision made by individual departments.  I have seen many DQ'd for this same behavior.

I do apologize if the quotes offended you.  They were to emphasise the words, my bad.  I cannot answer what chance a dpt would take, it is policy in most departments.  When coupled with the statement of watching porn fetishes and messaging with others, it may suggest a pattern of behavior that would not be acceptable.

I'm pushing you to be clear bc to me these behaiors sound like textbook control question topix. "A person who did X might do Y. So you've never ever [lied to someone you love, driven drunk, looked at freaky xxx, etc] - now HAVE YOU?"

Not that one would suspect a polygrapher might spend his free time posting misinformation about polygraphs on the Internetz.

Bill_Brown wrote on Sep 5^th, 2011 at 11:52pm:


Never talked to a federal polygrapher?

Have you ever had sex with a chicken? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/520940_Working_for_FBI.html

I regularly go background checks for my agency and if someone told me they masturbated in a public restroom I really wouldn't care.  I wouldn't see it as any different than having sex in a public restroom.  Actually, the former is probably somewhat safer than the latter.  But neither would be relevant to a police background investigation.

Unless there is some other aspect I couldn't care less.  Without some other aspect (such as voyeurism, pedophilia, etc...)  all that masturbation is indicative of is a functioning sex drive.

Bill_Brown wrote on Sep 7^th, 2011 at 3:04am:


Umm, I think there has been a mistake.  The highlighted message above was never part of this thread. It is something that I wrote in an entirely different thread about the CIA polygraph here:
https://antipolygraph.org/cgi-bin/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1315081855/0#0
It looks like user Bill Brown, who first replied the original post in this thread, made a mistake and quoted my post by accident.