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pailryder Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 441 Joined: Jun 5^th, 2006	Re: What is the standard testing format in sex offender polygraphs? Reply #30 - Apr 28^th, 2011 at 6:58pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	No, Twoblock, I am not Public Servant, but best wishes on your retirement and travels.

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Twoblock God Member Offline Posts: 732 Location: AR. Joined: Oct 15^th, 2002 Gender:	Re: What is the standard testing format in sex offender polygraphs? Reply #31 - Apr 29^th, 2011 at 1:40am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	pailryder Thanks. I will keep physically active because I can't let these old bones and muscles deteriorate so I'm still in the gym pumping iron and riding my bike when the weather is good. May want to climb a couple more mountains before I cash out.


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abusedbygov New User Offline Posts: 18 Joined: Jun 6^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: What is the standard testing format in sex offender polygraphs? Reply #32 - Jun 7^th, 2011 at 8:33pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	I'm new on here but was just notified that I am to take a polygraph and make a "full sexual disclosure" lolz. Jesus, these people are out of their crappity smacking minds!!! "Did I ever plan with someone to dig up a grave and ABUSE A CORPSE??" "Have I ever DELIBERATELY masturbated to fantasies of pre pubescent children?" (How does one 'accidently' masturbate?). "Do I have sex with DEAD ANIMALS!!!!!" My 'crime' was bullshitting with some lying dog on the internet who was bullshitting me. Evidently, they are allowed, whilst I am held to a higher standard. I am nervous as hell and have no good feeling about the outcome of this "test".


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stefano Ex Member	Re: What is the standard testing format in sex offender polygraphs? Reply #33 - Jun 8^th, 2011 at 4:25am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	abusedbygov wrote on Jun 7^th, 2011 at 8:33pm: My 'crime' was bullshitting with some lying dog on the internet who was bullshitting me. Evidently, they are allowed I'm curious to know what you mean by this. Are you referring to one of those lazy cops that cannot get up off their asses to catch real criminals in the street and have to pose as 13 year olds online to catch Iowa corn farmers who want to talk dirty?


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abusedbygov New User Offline Posts: 18 Joined: Jun 6^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: What is the standard testing format in sex offender polygraphs? Reply #34 - Jun 8^th, 2011 at 8:59pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Quote: I'm curious to know what you mean by this. Are you referring to one of those lazy cops that cannot get up off their asses to catch real criminals in the street and have to pose as 13 year olds online to catch Iowa corn farmers who want to talk dirty? Oh yes indeedy, my perspicacious friend. Only, in my case, it went a whole lot deeper. It was the owner of perverted-justice.com, NOT a cop, just a wild-eyed fanatical Jesus loving GAWD fearing jizzbone. I knew it wasn't a 13 yr. old, and THEY knew I knew it wasn't a 13 yr. old, yet they tracked me down and boom! That was it. My question, though, is this: I am federal (the computer made it federal jurisdiction)--are these pre-tests (and, by inference, the upcoming polygraph) case-specific? Or are they standardized? Has anyone else been through these kinds of inane, ludicrous, moronic tests?? The questions are absurd. "Have I ever been to a strip club?" Really? If you say 'yes', then you must explain. Uhh, well, gorgeous naked young women writhing like reptilian goddesses in my lap?? Is THAT a good explanation?? I'm thinkin if they NEED an explanation, they ain't gonna get the idea, y'know? Oh, here's a classic!! "Have you ever pleaded, begged, paid or otherwise coerced a woman to have sex??????????? Yeah. Are paying and begging the same thing? Really? Once again, answer 'yes' and I must explain. "Uhh, the one with the vagina gets to decide when, how, with whom and IF sex will happen. The one with the thingy begs, pleads, snivels, whines, wheedles cajoles, farts and tapdances and MAYBE gets some. I'm sorry, who's the pervert?


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stefano Ex Member	Re: What is the standard testing format in sex offender polygraphs? Reply #35 - Jun 8^th, 2011 at 11:05pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	abusedbygov wrote on Jun 8^th, 2011 at 8:59pm: NOT a cop, just a wild-eyed fanatical Jesus loving GAWD fearing jizzbone. I know where you are coming from, but IMHO, Jesus would be just as disgusted with their antics.


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Bill_Brown Very Senior User Offline Posts: 227 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2011	Re: What is the standard testing format in sex offender polygraphs? Reply #36 - Jun 9^th, 2011 at 12:36am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	abusedbygov wrote on Jun 7^th, 2011 at 8:33pm: "full sexual disclosure" I think you answered your own question with your question. Full Sexual Disclosure is not event specific. It is full disclosure.


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antipolygraphrso New User Offline Posts: 16 Joined: Apr 13^th, 2011	Re: What is the standard testing format in sex offender polygraphs? Reply #37 - Jul 25^th, 2011 at 12:53am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Quote: pailryder wrote on Apr 16^th, 2011 at 11:03am: antipolygraphrso Certainly, there are standards. Calibration and other standards can be found at the web site of the American Society of Testing and Materials (ASTM). It's a misnomer to state that polygraphists calibrate their instruments. They only check to see if they are within the manufacturer's specifications. Calibration requires setting the parameters to an established known standard; this is usually done by a technician who knows how to make the amplifier gain adjustments. Also, since the measurements made with the polygraph instruments are not quantitative, precise calibration is not crucial. My father works with quite a few engineers that will tell you it's quack science. He even contacted my PO (at the time I was on probation) to get the 'standards' in question, to which there was no response.


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antipolygraphrso New User Offline Posts: 16 Joined: Apr 13^th, 2011	Re: What is the standard testing format in sex offender polygraphs? Reply #38 - Jul 25^th, 2011 at 12:56am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	abusedbygov wrote on Jun 7^th, 2011 at 8:33pm: I'm new on here but was just notified that I am to take a polygraph and make a "full sexual disclosure" lolz. Jesus, these people are out of their crappity smacking minds!!! "Did I ever plan with someone to dig up a grave and ABUSE A CORPSE??" "Have I ever DELIBERATELY masturbated to fantasies of pre pubescent children?" (How does one 'accidently' masturbate?). "Do I have sex with DEAD ANIMALS!!!!!" My 'crime' was bullshitting with some lying dog on the internet who was bullshitting me. Evidently, they are allowed, whilst I am held to a higher standard. I am nervous as hell and have no good feeling about the outcome of this "test". You should have seen some of the questions on the 'prescreen questionarre' thingy I did before I was even sentenced. Corpse crappity smacking? Really? Also the 'Abel' test. lol, some of the questions. "Is a womans urinary tract in her vagina?' (or something of that nature). Heh, considering the fact I don't sleep with women, the only response I could make was 'Why don't you go get an anatomy book and tell me, or let me find out here, kthxbye.'


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antipolygraphrso New User Offline Posts: 16 Joined: Apr 13^th, 2011	Re: What is the standard testing format in sex offender polygraphs? Reply #39 - Jul 25^th, 2011 at 1:01am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	abusedbygov wrote on Jun 8^th, 2011 at 8:59pm: Quote: I'm curious to know what you mean by this. Are you referring to one of those lazy cops that cannot get up off their asses to catch real criminals in the street and have to pose as 13 year olds online to catch Iowa corn farmers who want to talk dirty? Oh yes indeedy, my perspicacious friend. Only, in my case, it went a whole lot deeper. It was the owner of perverted-justice.com, NOT a cop, just a wild-eyed fanatical Jesus loving GAWD fearing jizzbone. I knew it wasn't a 13 yr. old, and THEY knew I knew it wasn't a 13 yr. old, yet they tracked me down and boom! That was it. My question, though, is this: I am federal (the computer made it federal jurisdiction)--are these pre-tests (and, by inference, the upcoming polygraph) case-specific? Or are they standardized? Has anyone else been through these kinds of inane, ludicrous, moronic tests?? The questions are absurd. "Have I ever been to a strip club?" Really? If you say 'yes', then you must explain. Uhh, well, gorgeous naked young women writhing like reptilian goddesses in my lap?? Is THAT a good explanation?? I'm thinkin if they NEED an explanation, they ain't gonna get the idea, y'know? Oh, here's a classic!! "Have you ever pleaded, begged, paid or otherwise coerced a woman to have sex??????????? Yeah. Are paying and begging the same thing? Really? Once again, answer 'yes' and I must explain. "Uhh, the one with the vagina gets to decide when, how, with whom and IF sex will happen. The one with the thingy begs, pleads, snivels, whines, wheedles cajoles, farts and tapdances and MAYBE gets some. I'm sorry, who's the pervert? Xavier Von Erck? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perverted-Justice Yea, I've heard of PJ. Also, you should have seen how Wikipedia treated him. He actually got into some 'flame war' with them over what was being posted. Ahhh, yes, here it is... http://www.corrupted-justice.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10897&sid=03fc106a3b6bd1... Wiki nailed him because Wikipedia was a 'haven for teh pedoz.' That guy is slime, and the worst part is, if I ever came across him, I would wipe the floor with his crappity smacking Mountain Dew chugging fat ass. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjwtmw_sAk0 Thats a Youtube of him.


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mark Guest	Re: What is the standard testing format in sex offender polygraphs? Reply #40 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 10:12pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	i have a girl i like a lot and my po wants me to wait till we meet i have not been in trouble in a long time welll since prison and i reallly want to meet this girl not see one picture of her when do you think my po will let me see her and trust this good for me ?


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Ex Member God Member Offline Posts: 710 Joined: Dec 9^th, 2012	Re: What is the standard testing format in sex offender polygraphs? Reply #41 - Jan 20^th, 2016 at 4:40pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Mark, following the instructions of your PO is more important than meeting a girl. Focus on getting your life and personal act together before adding a relationship to the equation. IMHO.


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shane sawyer Guest	Re: What is the standard testing format in sex offender polygraphs? Reply #42 - Jan 26^th, 2019 at 9:56am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	If you are going to a individual theripist that says you are not mentally capable of passing a polygraph can your probation officer still make you take it


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George W. Maschke Global Moderator Offline Make-believe science yields make-believe security. Posts: 6211 Joined: Sep 29^th, 2000	Re: What is the standard testing format in sex offender polygraphs? Reply #43 - Jan 31^st, 2019 at 3:07pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Quote: If you are going to a individual theripist that says you are not mentally capable of passing a polygraph can your probation officer still make you take it The law governing post-conviction polygraph screening varies from state to state. It would be best to consult with a local attorney with experience in criminal defense law on this question.

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