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Wow... Guest	Re: Anti-Polygraph States Reply #15 - Sep 29^th, 2012 at 7:48pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Pailryder... You're a polygrapher... Or at least that's what I've read skimming through these posts. The polygraph is the brainchild of a CIA scientist who believed that we could communicate with plants. Telepathically. Given the history of polygraphs, I have a hard time taking you (or any polygrapher for that matter) seriously.


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stefano Ex Member	Re: Anti-Polygraph States Reply #16 - Sep 29^th, 2012 at 8:20pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Wow, Although you are replying to a post which is a couple of years old, Pailryder's comments are valid except where he is under the illusion that a digital instrument is superior to an analog which is simply not true. Also, I don't go along with the idea that Mr. Reid's experiments with plants are pure balderdash. Plants have shown to alter their chemical states when harmed or even threatened. This is actually more scientific than assuming physiological responses have a predictable correlation to deception.


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pailryder Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 441 Joined: Jun 5^th, 2006	Re: Anti-Polygraph States Reply #17 - Sep 30^th, 2012 at 10:55am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	stefano You have confused John Reid and Cleve Backster.
	« Last Edit: Sep 30^th, 2012 at 1:50pm by pailryder »
	No good social purpose can be served by inventing ways of beating the lie detector or deceiving polygraphers. David Thoreson Lykken
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pailryder Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 441 Joined: Jun 5^th, 2006	Re: Anti-Polygraph States Reply #18 - Sep 30^th, 2012 at 12:03pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Quote: The polygraph is the brainchild of a CIA scientist Wow Simply not true. Poly predates the CIA. Backster added a numercial scoring system to an existing technique.

	No good social purpose can be served by inventing ways of beating the lie detector or deceiving polygraphers. David Thoreson Lykken
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pailryder Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 441 Joined: Jun 5^th, 2006	Re: Anti-Polygraph States Reply #19 - Sep 30^th, 2012 at 1:48pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Quote: he is under the illusion that a digital instrument is superior to an analog which is simply not true As a data collection system, the digital is vastly superior to the analog in every respect. Ask the man who owns one.

	No good social purpose can be served by inventing ways of beating the lie detector or deceiving polygraphers. David Thoreson Lykken
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stefano Ex Member	Re: Anti-Polygraph States Reply #20 - Sep 30^th, 2012 at 5:39pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	pailryder wrote on Sep 30^th, 2012 at 1:48pm: As a data collection system, the digital is vastly superior to the analog in every respect.Ask the man who owns one. Wrong, they collect the same data and produce the same charts. Computerized versions simply make the polygrapher feel fancy. And by pure definition, analog instruments capture more data as the digital only samples the analog signal. Yes, I meant Backster, thanks for the correction.


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brianmanhgf Guest	oregon Reply #22 - Nov 27^th, 2012 at 11:59pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	I've heard hat oregon has lifted its ban on polygraph's. Any truth to this. Thanks


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Twoblock God Member Offline Posts: 732 Location: AR. Joined: Oct 15^th, 2002 Gender:	Re: Anti-Polygraph States Reply #23 - Nov 28^th, 2012 at 1:25am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	stefano I read a post here a few years ago by a polygrapher and he said that he preferred an analog because the computerized version has too much background noise. A question though: Doesn't the computerized version have an analog machine hooked into a computer? If so, they are still using the analog machine. So what's the fancy of a computer?


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