So, I am graduating from a top ten grad school in my field and thought it would be fun to work for the CIA. So I came up to DC, visited and saw how expensive the area is... but thought it might be worth it.
Until today. I admitted to past drug use and everything else I had done. I am a decorated Iraq vet, a member of the church, and I spend my extra time (when not playing with my 2 year old) volunteering for the homeless.
Still, according to the poly, I somehow have time to do drugs (within the past two years) and even was accused of being a Mexican drug runner (I'm a short white, blonde guy with "grad school gut")... I just got out of the Army Reserve and basically am a pretty good guy.  My only vice is the occasional beer and some small bets on football and the bball tournament... No drugs. I actually got myself in trouble when he accused me of doing drugs and I laughed... and when retested, he told me I was still lying... so I told him this was a joke. They invited me back but I decided tonight I am not going and being accused of this again. I volunteered for over 100 combat missions and hit a roadside bomb... I have earned my respect. And I still have a good job. 
I am sure it was a mind game and I would have been fine going back tomorrow. but I don't feel like moving across the country to work for a place that treats me like that.  Too bad, for the CIA. I could have contributed. 
I did pray last night that God give me a sign if I was in the right place. He answered.

Thank you, Proud for your service and sorry for your bad experience. It's their loss.

They actually called me back and asked me to reconsider later and pretty much admitted it was a mind game. I said no thanks.  They called again later and told me I had to pay them the money back for the hotel room and car. I told them I was not given it back by the hotel and rental company and never signed anything saying I would pay them back if I terminated the process.

They went on about how they do this to everyone. My response was that maybe if they would quit only hiring people who are willing to be treated like that, the agency would not have so many problems.


Being treated like crap when you are 18 and joining the Army is one thing. But when you have a family and they act like they are going to mess with your career and insult you and you take it... to me, that is not a positive quality.  Intelligent and confident people will stand up for themselves. 

I did leave a few things out in my quick, somewhat tired post. The main thing is this: I had a question, "are you intentionally planning on lying to any question." I answered no. No deception indicated.  But they said I lied on the same series of questions. I went through this three times and three times in a row, the same thing happened. I told him that did not make sense.  It was a logical fallacy. If I knew the questions and was lying, and it said I was telling the truth on the question about lying- the machine does not work.
This made him very, very mad. He tried to ramble on and make an argument about how those are testing seperate things.
He was also mad because he asked "have you ever taken advantage of someone?" I told him yes. My wife makes dinner for me sometimes and I don't thank her. Everyone takes advantage of people at some time. He told me that was not taking advantage and got mad.  That is a fact. He told me to answer no. He got mad and said he had never taken advantage of his wife. If anyone has done any research into family dynamics or therapy, they would know that everyone takes advantage of someone at some time. Jesus knew that Judas would betray him and yet he let him, which caused him to kill himself.  Jesus could have stoppped this, but did not. Even if it is ultimately for a good reason- did Jesus not take advantage? Strictly speaking, yes, he did. So, this polygrapher is better than Jesus...
Even though I believed that yes, I do take advantage of people and answered that I do not- no deception indicated. LOL! That is great! 

So, when asked if I will lie I say no and am not lying but then I lie. I must have the memory of a fish since he told me what he was going to ask and I forgot that I was going to lie! At the same time when I know I am lying as I was asked to do, it says I am telling the truth.

A final interesting note. I mentioned these types of websites but that I had not studied the counter measures, which is true.  That was probably a bad move since he became annoyed then. He wrote off these types of sites and told me that they have a "research team" reading this stuff all the time. 
Is that not domestic spying? I did not think the CIA was allowed to do that, haha.

Twoblock wrote on Mar 25^th, 2010 at 9:13am:


Thank you Proud. Nice to be back in the saddle!

anonymouse00,

Given the CIA's bad faith in the hiring process, epitomized by the fraudulent practice of polygraph screening (which involves the polygraph operator lying to and otherwise deceiving the person being "tested"), I don't think any applicant--especially one who has been falsely accused of deception--should feel any compunction about publicly discussing his or her experiences.

With regard to IP logs, yes, we know that AntiPolygraph.org is regularly visited from IP addresses belonging to government organizations that have polygraph programs.