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Re: Jury Returns $575,000 Award Against NITV for Defamation
Reply #15 - Jul 8th, 2021 at 10:04am
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Anthony R,

My example of an agreed upon amount being placed into an escrow account would not be for the purpose of paying the mediator's fees, but rather of ensuring performance on the judgment debt. Note also that mediation is not the same as binding arbitration.
  

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Reply #16 - Jul 9th, 2021 at 5:34pm
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I still maintain that Charlie and his band of pseudo-scientists are playing Gary and his lawyers like weakling fools.  Let me expand.  When Charlie got his "victory" over no-show Dektor, he immediately demanded that no more derogatory information be spread about NITV or Charlie himself.  Dang, he even threatened the IT consultant of Dektor and Anti-Polygraph. 
Also, when Crowe's parents threated to take NITV to court, Charlie settled in a heart beat.  He knew the Crowe family wasn't playing.
I can only imagine the nick names that the Doc Humble liar crew are calling Gary.  One that comes to mind is "Not so scary Gary the fairy."
Granted, I don't have the whole story of this long running litigation, but maybe there is a code of dishonor among faux Ph.Ds.
  
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Reply #17 - Jul 22nd, 2021 at 7:30pm
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Upon further reflection, and some on-line research, I now believe the mediation is to agree on a financial settlement.  Reportedly, Gary only makes between $25,000 to $35,000 a year and it true, wants some money in his pocket as soon as possible. 
Now, Charlie could be very rich, or he could be very poor and leading a fake rich lifestyle.  The revenues at NITV have reported been flat for several years at approximately 1.5 million a year so the company could just be treading water.  Also, Charlie is reportedly on his fourth wife and ex-wives can be expensive or so I have been told.  Let alone, Charlie's toys are a major expense as well as frequent lawsuits.  Charlie appears to be a big spender with no financial discipline. 
Basically, I believe the only thing Charlie and Gary can agree on is how much they hate AP since AP is blowing gaping holes into the make believe science of voice stress analysis.
  
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Reply #18 - Jul 22nd, 2021 at 7:40pm
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The mediation session held on 20 July ended in impasse.
  

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Reply #19 - Jul 23rd, 2021 at 12:05am
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Not a surprise that the mediation session ended in an impasse.  It appears that Charlie is continuing his strategy of stone walling.  With all of Charlie's LLCs - trying to actually recover the judgement will be like a legal version of whack a mole for Gary's attorneys.  Charlie probably hid some money in his minor son's accounts, maybe some in his wife's so-called real estate company, some in some of his LLC's, who's to say?
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Reply #20 - Jul 23rd, 2021 at 12:30am
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Also, when I step back from all the Charlie and Gary drama, I cannot stop thinking how this ongoing legal action would make one heck of a news story.
We got to principals, without principles, preaching the fake gospel of truth and therefore integrity.  But wait, both these actors have fake Ph.D's to dishonestly boast their reputations.  Both Gary and Charlie have even posted on Anti-Polygraph by referring to themselves as doctorate level individuals.  Gary evidently emailed this site personally, whereas Charlie had his lawyer sent a letter to AP and said letter referred to Charlie as Dr. Humble two times.
When Charlie "won" his case against no show pro se Dektor, he immediately gave a short deadline of, if I remember right,  four days for the opposing IT consultant to cough up the software.  Even AP was given a short deadline to "comply."  Although it has been over two years since that infamous cease and desist letter, I am still scratching my head wondering why a presumed competent attorney would send such a dumb ass letter.  Maybe a quick and dirty immediate payoff of a few hundred dollars? 
The Brian Ross Charles Humble interview on YouTube would be a good starting point for a reporter, throw in the Charlie/Gary legal drama, maybe interview some of the bureaucrats that contracted with either Charlie and Gary on why they did not do due diligence on VSA's or at least do some cursory research on Google to see how VSAs and polygraphs are pseudoscience nonsense before wasting thousands of taxpayer dollars and then maybe interview some of us that have been wronged by this pseudoscience.
  
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Re: Jury Returns $575,000 Award Against NITV for Defamation
Reply #21 - Jul 26th, 2021 at 4:17pm
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Marc Freeman writes about the ongoing civil litigation between Gary Baker and Charles Humble in an article titled, "Who’s telling the truth? Battle over lie-detecting is stranger than fiction," published in the South Florida Sun-Sentinel. Excerpt:

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Endless litigation

The feuding began in 2003, when Humble’s original company, NITV, LLC, sued Baker in federal court for false advertising and unfair competition. The following year, NITV sued Baker for a second time, but by early 2005 the parties had agreed to a settlement.

The peace was temporary. That same year Baker sued NITV for defamation, this time in Palm Beach County Circuit Court. He accused NITV of sending out “Scam Alert” notices to police departments around the country warning about Baker’s product.

A jury sided with Baker, and in 2011, a state appeals court agreed Baker was entitled to a $250,000 award for damage to his reputation. The trial judge later approved that judgment plus interest.

But Baker says he still hasn’t seen any money. Scott W. Zappolo, attorney for Baker, said he is now asking a new judge to order Humble’s company to pay out over $400,000, including the interest amount.

Humble’s attorney, William A. Fleck, could not be reached for comment despite attempts by email and calls to his office.

But Humble explained that his original NITV company lost too much business over false attacks by Baker and his partner, making it unable to pay the judgment.

“They killed the cow they are going after,” Humble said, blaming the defamation on a former employee.

On top of that dispute, in 2015 Humble sued Baker and a partner, accusing them of doing illegal international business in Central America and other places. Baker denies the allegations.

  

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Reply #22 - Jul 26th, 2021 at 7:16pm
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Thanks for the update.  I read as much of the article by Marc Freeman as I could before getting popped out since it is a pay for view piece.  I could only briefly read parts of the article so please forgive me if I am missing some points.
That said, Mr. Freeman would be well served to study AP for an incredible amount of information on the on-going rumble between Baker and Humble.  Also, the Brian Ross ABC interview of "Dr," Humble, especially the longer version should be viewed by Mr. Freeman.
Here are a few points that need to be further examined:
*  If NITV/Humble cannot pay the judgement against them, they probably need to declare bankruptcy.  Gary's lawyers really need to start leaning on Charlie & Co.  Charlie bragged to Brian Ross that NITV "has had a remarkable level of success."  Really Charlie, don't blame your foe faux doc for your failure to pay a settlement.
*  Charlie and Gary need to show their research on VSAs "work" and furnish some empirical data, not a phony baloney Ukraine published article.  Charlie's attempt to explain his "science" to Brian Ross appeared to have backfired.
*  Just because polygraphs are bogus does not mean VSAs are legit.  The research I have found shows they are both 50/50.  The CVSA given to me was, however, 100% inaccurate.
*   Finally, like the purpose of AP, all forms of polygraphs, VSAs and even e-meters need to be gone now.  A bogus CVSA dented my career, but we have former Afghanistan allies that may be murdered by the Taliban because of various charlatans more interested in making money than the welfare of their fellow humans.
I hope Marc Freeman does a series of articles about the fallacy of so-called lie detection.   
  
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Re: Jury Returns $575,000 Award Against NITV for Defamation
Reply #23 - Jul 27th, 2021 at 6:07pm
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A reader kindly sent a PDF version of Marc Freeman's South Florida Sun-Sentinel article, "Which Company Is Telling the Truth: Battle in Lie-Detecting Industry Is Getting Stranger than Fiction," which I have attached to this post.
  

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Reply #24 - Jul 28th, 2021 at 5:41pm
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Thank you and your kind reader for the PDF.  Well, it looks like the war between the foe faux docs will be on-going.  Good. 
Charlie is really a piece of work claiming that Gary is too aggressive and greedy, especially after Charlie threatened to destroy the livelihood of Matt Vanderhoff, an IT consultant that wrote some software for Dektor, as well as threatened "sanctions" against AP.  Karma does exist at least in Charlie's case.  Really, Charlie could lose everything, and I would not be surprised to even see his 4th wife (whom appears young enough to be his grand daughter) jump ship.  I have zero mercy for someone that Charlie that has destroyed probably thousands or lives and has dented, or prevented so many criminal justice careers.
I'm thinking that Charlie may realize the gig is up, and he is going down, and wants to take Gary down to Hell with him by continuing to run up litigation expenses.
This comment should probably be in another heading, but one thing I find interesting is that in the VSA side of so-called lie detection, it is the manufacturers that attack each other (CVSA, DVSA, Dektor).  But on the polygraph side, it is the operators that attack each other, for example, the Dr. Phil polygraphists.
  
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Update on Baker v. NITV
Reply #25 - Today at 9:28am
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A 30-page Pretrial Stipulation filed on 27 July 2021 lays out the issues that are to be argued and decided at trial in this case. This document is attached to this post.

The key point that appears to be at issue is whether NITV, LLC., against which the judgment in this case was originally issued, fraudulently transferred assets to avoid paying the judgment debt, and whether Charles Humble, his wife, Lourdes Irimia, and NITV Federal Services are liable for that.

A "Hearing on Defendants' Objections to Request for Production" is set for Tuesday, 3 August 20201 at 8:30 AM before Judge Ashley Zuckerman.

The hearing is to be held via Zoom, a videoconferencing service:

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